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Old 09-10-2007, 07:43 AM
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Default To ninaL: Thanks..

Thanks..

But I was also fine with previous comments..:D

I do not know why you changed those? But may be because Francis told you. :}

I do not mind seeing search comments as you can see most of my Photos not even cross 5 points.
reason I am worst Photographer or People do not understand what I want to show.
May be 1st reason sound more valid.

Another thing ..I often get such comments..as I am not part of any group on TE...
So I respect your comments.

Another thing, I do not get involve in TE discussion, since TE is not the final word AT LEAST for me. I know LEVEL of TE except few guys those are really Talented for me.
& Those are really few..Most Great one is Sohrab, Followed by LUKO, Galota, Kaj, Peter, Maciej, radek, Animesh & few more..
In fact Jerzy..too.

You are right at your critc.
But I know what I am doing.
that is the reason I find People to watch my Photos for their personal collection..
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:03 AM
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Default Re: To ninaL: Thanks..

I agree that Sohrab, LUKO, Galota, Kaj, Peter, Maciej, Radek and Animesh are really Talented...
But your photographs that I commented...nothing in commun with this photographers ;).
I changed my comments beceause were not objective and clear enough...
I never studied english at school, so, is difficult to me to explain better.
Regards again-Grazyna.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:13 AM
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Default Re: To ninaL: Thanks..

I appriciate your efforts writing in English.

Thanks..
One point..

You Mentioned about light, Framing, etc etc.

Sure those points are valid..but don't you feel word Photography is Not only restricted to Word Composition, which you are referring which limits only of to these couple of factors. light, Position, Frame bla bla!!!

I was lucky or unlucky enough to had chance to see what suffering is in life very closely..
May be the reason, I want to see colors of life hidden under Superficial beauty. ..in dark colors which is color fo life for me.

Keeping Laughing cute girls Saying V & cheeze..is not only aim of my Photography..

It is something much more for me than what it meant others..

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Old 09-10-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: To ninaL: Thanks..

Composition, frame and light is not "bla, bla".
Understand me well : When I talk about this things, is not always in a classical way. I can like original compositions, out of rules, when there are strong enough...when I can feel some emotion, some deep plaisir...

Another thing : I explained you as I could my position. And what about your critique of some JB photographs ("weak photo")...can you develop it ?
What does it mean weak photo for you ?
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:47 AM
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It is Weak..

Weakest Photo I ever seen from JB.
It dose not have anything..

See, Color & Light is one of the aspect of Photography
but it dose not every thing ..Or Photography dose not mean that all.
I am talking about feelings & body language.
Body Language in terms of Methaphore..Which reveals something more than Photo or action going on.
It is sort of sense..Live sense..Sene that Speaks about Photo..
It speaks about color..& everything.

Again I can Interpret that word as Dynamism. Not I am not referring Dynamism created by Tilt or Motion Blur. ..Just ignore those So called Dynamics..

I am talking about TRUE dynamism.. Though Frozen action..It is speedy.

PSB Link.

http://www.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR3/S/3/V/S/PAR156216.jpg

I am referring to this.
This is Spontaneous love. Love that is complete stable..But it has force.
It holds body language..
Scene that speaks..
Again as I told you about another dynamics..
PSB link.
http://www.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR3/S/3/V/S/PAR156207.jpg

I am not referring this for time being.

Now I am not saying or I never said JB has bad with his Photo.

I just mentioned I found his Photo weak.
It has nothing but group of Cooks waiting & watching & complete mess.
Yes it was Dynamic but messy Dynamics.

Now refer Another Messy Dynamic Photo.
http://www.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR3/S/3/H/N/PAR275310.jpg

or

http://www.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR3/S/K/B/W/PAR275317.jpg

But Especially that photo by JB is really Below par.
Now I am not comparing JB with Raghu or Webb or Harvey or HBC.

I just Tod JB on his own merits. watching his series.
Just Put his Photos in series & watch & hope you can read photos better.

Again each photo has its own merit which you can refer as personal merit & Value in putting in series.
I found both are weak...Even with the second Photo which was close to screen & blur.

I am not against blur & many Photos with blur & shining high.
But when I tried to untie the Photo it is just a Jargon.

Again, to the next point..
Sure JB has its own parameters to judge the photo.
& sure when he shoot that he had some view point to keep this Photo in this series. I can not understand his efforts for that photo & his pain & love for that photo.

but as 3rd person when I saw that Photo it was sort of jargon or Even I read that as jargon of Photographers mind. I may wrong.
and when I kept watching his series I found he is just uploading the photo to make story more descriptive but it is unnecessary descriptive which may tend JB to load photos from stock compromising its individual value & value while keeping in series.

As I also mentioned in his another Photo that it is interesting series but bunch of random uploads.

sorry I am confused now.
Just go through this.

I will keep on writing in continuation.

(Discussion Continue)
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: To ninaL: Thanks..

I think I understand your approach (speaking body)...
But I am not agree with your arguments about JB photos ;).
But is often very personnal...very subjective...
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: To ninaL: Thanks..

Ok..

Can you please xplain about that 2 photos??
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:05 PM
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What you want I to explain...
I can't feel your "approach" on your last photos...
I can hardly see what you are talking about...
Maybe after some long intelectual studying...
I am in my office, now, but this evening, I'll try to visit better your galery and if I find something of interesting, I'll tell you ;).
Have a good day, see you later.
Grazyna.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: To ninaL: Thanks..

Shailendra THIS is the critique you should have written in the first place rather than "3 words" which doesn't even count as a critique - you know that...
What you write here is deep, man and deeply felt. You quote chapter and verse from Magnum and it is clear how far you have gone in oyur photographic thinking. This is quite extraordinary.
But remember (and I know you will agree) - Jerzy is a fine photographer who has filled this site with memorable images - as with you, as with me (of course after 100s of deletions!) not every image is god as our very best. The challenge is to get that point across precisely and with compassion. Thus we can all grow together...
Agree?
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: To ninaL: Thanks..

I Never said J is bad Photographer.
I always said he is good Photographer..
I just felt that Photo is weak..
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