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Porteplume 03-20-2012 10:56 AM

HDR photos - NEW RULE in Terms of Service
Hello everyone.
We wish to advise all our members of a new rule in the Terms of Service, regarding HDR (High Dynamic Range) photos. You will find it as point #9 in the Photographs section at

Here is the new rule:

9. HDR (High Dynamic Range) photographs - HDR images should have a photo-realistic effect with the sole purpose of raising the level of detail in a sky or shadowed area to the point where it keeps the appearance of a normal photo. HDR images which have a surrealistic effect or no longer look like photos will be removed at the discretion of the Moderators. This applies to HDR photos produced by software or by the camera itself.

On behalf of the Moderation Team

smarcell 03-20-2012 04:54 PM

I do not like HDR myself, but honestly I think we did not need this additional rule. First of all HDR are always unrealistic. Unless one is extremely good, HDR are ALWAYS a distortion of the reality. But anyway, how many out-of-reality HDRs do people post every day ? Every week ? Come on ! A couple of them in a week ? Three ? Is it worth introducing this new rule for a few pictures in a week ?
Do you think that an exagerate HDR is such a big violation of the TE rules ?
To me it is just a bad quality image.

Best Regards


Keitht 03-20-2012 07:18 PM

The simple answer to 'how many out-of-reality HDR images so we see?' is "Too many" otherwise, as you say, there would be no requirement to add the rule.

It is possible to create HDR images without them looking like paintings or line drawings and used sparingly, to lift highlight and shadow detail is perfectly acceptable. Exaggerated HDR is a violation of one of the basic rules of TE that PP work should be limited.

jlbrthnn 03-21-2012 05:11 PM

I am stunned
The new rules and the moderator's response bore me

These new rules and certainties, are the opened door to new excess on the part of our "moderators", well known, and consequently, will be the cause of many departures.

When Do you stop being so perfect?

Ces nouvelles règles et certitudes, sont la porte ouverte à de nouveaux excés de la part de nos "modérateurs" bien connus et, par voie de conséquence, seront la cause de départs nombreux. Quand vous arrêterez vous d'être si parfaits?

williewhistler 03-27-2012 12:38 PM

More Rules
If exaggerated HDR is a violation of one of the basic rules of TE that PP work should be limited,why do we need


Keitht 03-27-2012 04:48 PM

The new rule was created for clarification purposes. Software costs have plummetted over the years. When this site was created photo manipulation software was a very expensive, very niche, market. Now it is available free so everybody experiments. Likewise, when the site was created, and indeed for many year after, HDR was first unknown and then inaccessible to most people. HDR is now part of most photo-processing packages.
For that reason it was felt that specific reference to HDR was needed.
Hopefully that explains the thinking.

The saying "You can't please all of the people all of the time" is certainly true. We have complaints that the TOS haven't moved with the times and then, when we do try to we get complained at for that! Ho hum. :(

macondo 03-30-2012 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by williewhistler (Post 1208592)
If exaggerated HDR is a violation of one of the basic rules of TE that PP work should be limited,why do we need 'new' rules.

Adding to what Keith has said, HDR shots will continue to be removed at Moderators' discretion on the grounds of 'Excessive post-processing'. HDR has become so commonplace that some members may think it is generally acceptable, or even that it doesn't fall into the category of excessive post-processing. Some responses to the removal of HDR photos suggests this is the case. Many cameras are now also capable of creating HDR photos internally, and some members may not think that this qualifies as 'processing'.

Herquin 04-28-2012 07:03 PM

Je rejoins Joël dans ses propos . Je me demande quand TE sera , enfin , une terre d'accueil et non une terre d'exil !!!

Dragut 05-01-2012 06:55 PM

Hdr retouche
La photo a commencé avec des plaques, des chambres, du film argentique....aujourd'hui on est au numérique, la hdr est une nouvelle composante de la photo d'aujourd'hui et elle n'est qu'un outil au service de l'image ( comme le numérique)
Arrêtez de jouer les censeur avec vos règles qui frisent le ridicule....interdisez aussi les appareils numériques puisque vous y ètes,

Combiens de personnes qui ne savent pas ce qu'est un couple vitesse diaphragme, indice de lumination...... toutes ces techniques de prises de vues argentiques qui sont totalement gérées en automatique par les boitiers d'aujourd'hui, conbiens de personnes ne pourraient s'exprimer sur TE sans le numérique......combiens..vous seriez assez seuls, il me semble.:eek:

Keitht 05-01-2012 09:19 PM

A basic rule of the site ever since the beginning is that post processing must be kept to a minimum. Nothing has changed with the addition of the clarification of what is and is not allowed when using HDR techniques. Used sparingly, HDR can and does enhance a photograph; used excessively the end result looks more like a painting. Images with as much HDR as you wish to use may be posted on TrekLens, a site which was specifically created to provide a showcase for images which fall outside the tight constraints of the Terms of Service of TrekEarth.

peterkennett 06-04-2012 11:17 AM

Time to move on
Rats! I just saw this posting, and new rule details. Since I shoot HDR images almost exclusively this means I should cancel my account here and move on. :(

SnapRJW 06-04-2012 05:18 PM

Removal Of Images
Hello Peter - Have you had any shots removed due to HDR work? If not, I think it should be safe to assume that they fit the criteria of not being overly post processed. Don't pack your bags just yet!

Regards Rosemary

Keitht 06-05-2012 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by peterkennett (Post 1214082)
Rats! I just saw this posting, and new rule details. Since I shoot HDR images almost exclusively this means I should cancel my account here and move on. :(

Absolutely not Peter. If you read the entire content of the rule regarding HDR you will see what is and isn't acceptable for posting on TE. The HDR rule is really simply updating what has always been the situation regarding post processing work, that is to say it has to be minimal and unobtrusive.

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