Panta Vrehei (Part 2) Photo

Photographer’s Note

This is my second post from the beautiful canyon called "Panta Vrehei" (in greek it means "it's always raining"). I know that the sky is way too overexposed, but believe me with these huge contrasts there, this "washed out" sky is inevitable. I tried everything but it wasn't posible to avoid it without losing important details in the shadowed part. I even tried sort of HDR or DRI method there, but the result was too "fake", so I decide to leave it as it is, in some way I think that this bright part could also help to the magic feeling of this place. The two basic reasons why I didn't throw it into the Recycle Bin: first of all, I still like this picture and second, I think it's quite representative of this place.

*** If you want to read more about this place and how to get there, just check my PREVIOUS POST ***

ifanik, aimiliospet, Davidh34, josepmarin, CRATEOS, edytungkal, jhm, COSTANTINO, Wanda1, Emile, Emiel_Skyfreak, enedimd, steliosk has marked this note useful

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miumiu (3868) 2007-10-08 2:21

Hello Hercules!
Excellent photo!
I like its colours and composition! Atmosphere is very calm and peaceful!
Greetings
Agnes

tzopitoula (545) 2007-10-08 2:25

Geia sou Hrakli,
Katapliktiki fwtografia. Ta xrwmata kai i sinthesi dinoun mia paramithenia aisthisi sti fwtografia sou, poli wraia!!
Tzopi

barrufeto_77 (26141) 2007-10-08 2:28

Hola Hercules.

Lástima de sobreexposición...argggg, aunque supongo que poco podrías hacer no? Un poblemilla el jugar con la exposición así a esas horas aunque el resultado sigue siendo impactante.

Un saludo, Oscar

bostankorkulugu (34562) 2007-10-08 2:31

good to see all the layers of the fall despite the pure white sky:)... the falling waters have many colours this time, mainly blue and orange... i like what you are trying to show us giritli mou...

tak care...

korkut

ben4321 (9839) 2007-10-08 2:33

This looks like a truly spectacular place Hercules, and one that is very difficult to photograph with that extreme contrast between light and shade. It's a shame about the massive area of burn-out, and hard to see how you could have avoided it except by going for a tighter framing on a smaller section of the waterfall and excluding the bright sky entirely.
Careful positioning of a strong ND grad might also have helped you out. You'd have needed to position it diagonally to cover the brightest area of sky while trying not to darken the canyon walls - tricky.
I'm glad you posted this - it's an interesting shot, both for it's content and for the difficulties you faced in taking it.

Cheers,
Ben

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delic (6735) 2007-10-08 2:45

Hello Hercules,
Having done a lot of photography in canyons, I can tell you that in this kind of a place, you need to have overcast weather to have manageable dynamic range. If the weather does not cooperate as in this case, then you should go for really tight compositions, like your previous upload. Trying to have all in one frame calls for trouble. Here, I would concentrate on just the lower left part of the image with proper exposure (spotmeter on the bright area), or the lower right. I think the lens has demonstrated its two weaknesses as well here: flare and chromatic aberrations. I would also refrain from a using anything wider than 20 mm on APS-C sensors in canyons; remember less is more sometimes. Sorry, it's not a positive one this time, but this place has a lot of potential and it's definitely worth a revisit. Best,
Hakan
PS: This is still salvageable by cropping generously the two sides of the falls.

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stefanocer (10418) 2007-10-08 2:51

Strange mix of overexposure lens flare ect.... but the result is very interesting Hercules , I like it , compliments.
Stefano.

evanrizo (456) 2007-10-08 3:10

Πάντα βρέχει και βρέχει που τέτοιο καλό Ηρακλή, μας ξέχασαν οι Θεοί!-¨)
Φανταστική φωτογραφία σε φως και χρώματα.

ifanik (20816) 2007-10-08 3:13

Kalimera Hraklh
Allh mia foberh apo ayto to yperoxo meros
Ejairetiko apotelesma me yperoxa xrwmata kai fwtismo
Bravo file
Xairetw

testmaniac (12523) 2007-10-08 4:32

Hello Hercules! Great place and composition. But photo quality is too bad. The sky is burned and the colors is very saturated.

TFS

Philip

Davidh34 (838) 2007-10-08 6:50

Hi Hercules

This looks a fabulous place, and well done for posting the 'real' image. I know HDR can look amazing, but most often to me looks unreal, or fake as you say. Despite the washed out sky this is a beautiful scene, the light playing on the water is wonderful.

Regards

David

josepmarin (35001) 2007-10-08 11:53

Hola Hercules,
entiendo perfectamente el problema del cielo sobreexpuesto en este tipo de fotos, a todos nos ocurre alguna vez. La luz es difícil y hay mucho contraste en la exposición entre las zonas con mucha luz como el cielo y las zonas en sombra, y equilibrar eso no es fácil.
Pero tu opción ha sido acertada, aunque el cielo salga "lavado", las partes positivas de la imagen, las que nos interesa ver, están perfectamente expuestas y nos muestran toda su belleza y sus detalles.
Como en tu post anterior, la textura del agua por la exposición larga me encanta.
Un abrazo, amigo,
Josep

edytungkal (4521) 2007-10-08 19:49

Very strange and unique picture with so many different exposures, but i like the result. it has give the 3-D effect with beautiful colours and lighting. Nice try Hercules, tfs

daniel

CRATEOS (7274) 2007-10-09 1:34

vale prama apo eki ...metefere mas sto meros me kathe tropo..akomi ke me DRI i HDR..i me BMW...mia kali volta arki file..epeno oytos i allos

erroso..!!
nf

jhm (85052) 2007-10-09 2:59

Hello Hercules,

I find this picture most beautiful and better than your previous, the colours are very nice, certainly the waterfall gives a nice composition.
Very well done. Thanks for sharing.

Best regards,
John.

TopGeo (23013) 2007-10-09 6:59

Hello Hercules
Ego vlepo ena endiapheron meros me ekseretiko proto plano se kinisi, chroma, perivapon apithano kai to piso na sinodevi tin oli sinthesi tonizontas tin! Epaino! filika Geo

Wanda1 (11195) 2007-10-09 20:46

Hi Hercules,
A nice perspective here giving us a sense of the height of the waterfall. I love teh light shining through and once again the blurred movement of the water. It does indeed have a magical feeling.
Regards
Wanda

Emile (20189) 2007-10-09 22:22

Hola Hercules.
Como dicen casi todos una lastima la sobre exposicion, lo que pasa me imagino, es una foto muy dificil de tomar con el sol de frente y tomada desde un POV con un angulo de abajo hacia arriba y la presencia de una zona amplia de sombra, pienso quizas si con unos pasos hacia atras y tomandola de manera horizontal con un marco pequeño no se nota tanto. De todas maneras tu esfuerzo valio la pena, a pesar de ese pequeño inconveniente tu foto es muy buena.
Abrazos.

COSTANTINO (24048) 2007-10-10 2:47

Γειά σου Ηρακλή,
εξαιρετική σύνθεση, εντυπωσιακή σύλληψη με φαντασία και καλλιτεχνική έκφραση. Τα χρώματα, το καδράρισμα και το σημείο λήψης είναι πολύ πετυχημένα και συνθέτουν μια ατμόσφαιρα μυστηρίου και μαγείας. Μπράβο.
Χαιρετώ,
COSTANTINO

diafani (700) 2007-10-10 6:07

It's very nice. A "magical" quality to the light and the mood.

Priam1966 (892) 2007-10-10 12:54

Hello Hercules
No critical here the Shot is so magical it's certaily a part of paradise you show us
Congratulation

Emiel_Skyfreak (2976) 2007-10-11 17:00

Hi Hercules,

Difficult one, difficult conditions..I see that instantly. A lot of contrast and not enough dynamic range to cover it, I think you don't encounter that to often with a 30D, but here it is visible. In main lines I really agree with Ben4321 and delic. YOu've noticed yourself the burned out area's are far from nice, and like delic says, the lens seem to demonstrate one of its weakness (I guess there are only very few though..), the CA and, if you ask me, in minor degree, the amount of flare. But the CA is really naughty. For the best demonstration of this scene, which looks fantastic nevertheless, with the falls and nice colours there! I would crop heavily from the left side of the photo, and maybe a bit from the right. Yes...the result will be a tall and tight photo, it would really be an experiment.
I like the warm colours, yellow, orange and red here..but also the greens of the vegetation. Blue is somewhat too present here and there, where it shouldn't belong.
Wandering around for another POV and view angle, *might* have led to a better place to capture this photo from.
Nevertheless I have to give congratulations for the achievement on this photo concerning the conditions.
It surely doesn't belong in the recycle bin, thanks for sharing it!

Regards!

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enedimd (1528) 2007-10-13 6:35

Hi dear friend,
This is also so beautiful and wonderful as before shot.
Stupendous place.... Wonderful shot with beautiful colors, falls view, light and great POV. I like especially yellow light on the trees in the middle. Congrats,
Warm regards,
Emir Nedim

coco (28701) 2007-10-20 13:49

Las fotos no se borran, eso lo primero de todo.

Kalispera Hercules.

Hace días que tengo abierta esta foto pero últimamente no tengo tiempo para mucho(eso sin contar con que hasta hace pocos días he tenido problemas, que venían de largo, con el ordenador).

Seguro que la foto es representativa del lugar y el juego de luces a mi me convence.

Un saludo.

PD (respondo aquí a la otra crítica): pasa que últimamente no tengo tiempo para nada y he pensado que el viaje a Atenas lo dejaré para un poco más adelante (supongo que para invierno podré coger vacaciones y tendré más tiempo que no ahora, porque con tres días libres y los horarios de los vuelos, solo me daría para estar un día y nada más)

steliosk (4784) 2007-10-26 2:45

Ηρακλή,
πολύ περίεργη σκηνή έντονο contrast, αλλα το θέμα είναι ξεκάθαρο και προσεγμένο
οσο αφορά τη σύνθεση είναι άψογη ώς σύνηθως και δε χωράει σχόλιο περι αυτού

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