Une scène qu'on refuse de voir quand on passe devant le comptoire des viandes.
J'éleve des lapins pour me nourrir. Ce lapin est né, a été élevé et est mort dans le respect contrairement aux produits qu'on consomme sur le marché. Je n'aime pas tuer, mais sans être capable de le faire moi même, je serais végétarien. Si ce genre de scène peut vous choquer, peut-etre devriez-vous devenir végétarien?!? Depuis que je tue moi même mes animeaux pour ma consommation, je mange beaucoup moin de viande. Si tout le monde aurait la chance de tuer au moin une fois la viande qu'il mange, on n'en mangerais moin, y'aurait beaucoup plus de végétarien et le peu de viande consommé serait peut-etre manger avec un meilleur respect.
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jhe00 (271) 2004-10-10 8:23
slightly horrific but a very impressive capture. great composition and drama.
ninadev (5377) 2004-10-10 8:23
Désolée JF, je trouve l'image dégoûtante et n'apportant pas vraiment d'intérêt pour TE. au moins si le titre évoquait quelque chose d'autre qu'un repas... ça n'ouvre pas l'appétit.
anakin (2775) 2004-10-10 8:46
Una foto no muy apropiada pienso...no es de mi gusto para nada
Aegean (2571) 2004-10-10 13:04
In my opinion this is a very cruel shot and out of every sense of art or aesthetics...Simply a photo that does not fit in TE!
Hanssie (10471) 2004-10-10 13:48
Several times I saw this picture today and I still don't know, why this have to be posted on a site, where it is the meaning to show pictures of your country. There's even not a note why....
No points !
Bad shot !
strangiato (10) 2004-10-10 14:12
Very powerful image JF. It shows the cruelty of human beings as well as the need for survival, at the expense of this rabbit.
Keitht (1304) 2004-10-10 15:30
I have no particular problem with the content although the purpose of the site is to learn about the world through photography, and as it stands, I don't think the photo fits the brief. A wider shot, showing the context, could have been just as powerful without causing the offence felt by some.
Ebbe (9617) 2004-10-10 15:41
I find this a good journalistic style but raised in the same climate I am used to the scene. I think the hare needs a bit more light to come out well. The background could have been better, just an angle avoiding the windowframe had been an improvement. But for the close up, tight framing and bold idea I give you two points anyway.
vapours (8264) 2004-10-10 15:52
I think this photo had the chance to be very powerful, perhaps showing the cruelty towards animals in a meat market or wherever it is and being a positive influence.
However the fact it is no note has failed to achieve this and hence just looks like its glorifying the death of this rabbit.
bebel (7588) 2004-10-10 16:11
je n'aime pas cette image et pourtant j'ai été élevé à la campagne, mon oncle enlevait même l'oeil du lapin pour le saigner, il tuait aussi les cochons. ça n'empêche que je n'aime pas ce genre de photo. J'ai été élevé aussi entouré de chasseurs et de tableaux de chasse...
(j'aurai bien du mal à estimer les critères techniques)
j'ajoute également qu'après avoir cherché qui était notre collègue de TE, je n'ai rien appris puisque sa présentation n'existe pas. Au contraite de la plupart des autres membres... très surprenant
kikvel (4784) 2004-10-10 17:42
No note to acompan the pic. No sense at all.
I will never get the reason here.
Didi (60358) 2004-10-11 11:50
A l'heure où je consulte cette photo, elle a été vue 191 fois et critiquée 14 fois.
Mon opinion rejoint la majorité.
Vous répondez : C'est pourtant une scène de la vie de tout les jours...
Je réponds que je ne photographierai jamais un humain ou un animal en train de faire ses besoins bien que ce soit aussi une scène de la vie de tout les jours.
Mon commentaire n'est pas dans le but de vous vexer.
jrenier (762) 2004-10-11 15:34
This picture is great, because it's life.
In this case, it's even more, it's humour.
Tiny brains are not able to understand I guess
But it should be in treklens ...
A note would have been very usefull to justify this ;)
L'humour noir, on aime ou on aime pas.
Cette photo n'a rien de dégoûtant, il n'y a que les petits d'esprit qui s'offusquent devant une scène pareille.
DiaAzul (1403) 2004-10-15 23:14
I don't mind the content of the image, however, it does seem to lack some sort of context - I read in the note that it is in front of the abatoir, however, this is not clear from the photograph and to gain maximum impact it should be. As it stands it is trying to make a political statement on the rights/wrongs of hunting/farming without really conveying it in the picture - in reality the picture just serves to get people to read the note.
Aside from the above, whilst the whiskers are in focus the background is distracting and the fur appears unsharp/out of focus.
mdchachi (1617) 2004-10-20 10:16
I never give points but I'm making an exception because of all the close-minded reaction you are getting (even from old-timers!). Technically the shot is good. DOF is good. Composition too. But best thing is the powerful emotion caused by the contrast to the alive-looking rabbit and blood which indicates otherwise.
This photo indeed tells us something about the world. Your title indicates that the animal has been killed for food so it's no different than the pictures of dead dogs, pigs, ducks, etc that we see on TE. So I've learned that rabbits are hunted and eaten in Quebec.
I agree a note would be nice but on the other hand, what is there to say. The title says it all.
Retagger (26) 2005-09-09 23:46
What did I learn from your photo? NOTHING! There is no logical reason for this photo to be posted on TrekEarth and I therefore ask Adam to remove this sick photo from this great website. What a disgrace. This photo absolutly ruins the the true meaning of this website.
IaKoop (819) 2005-09-25 15:26
Wow, what a battle this has started! I'm not sure from previous critiques whether this was originally posted without comment, or whether folks simply disagreed with the comments made. If your notes were added later, I'm glad it was done. I feel every shot in TrekEarth should include notes, for this is about learning. If the photo is as contraversial as this, then notes should be mandatory.
That said, I agree with mdchachi. This does tell us about the world, like it or not. As a photo, you've caught the blood mid-drip, very effective. The exposure may be a little dark, but that goes with the sombre mood. I agree that a different background may have been nicer, but many less-perfect photos have received more points.
Finally, the subject. I feel that society, especially we North Americans, have moved towards a surreal world where we like to eat, but we like to pretend we don't kill. While I can understand where this comes from, for killing always brings some remorse (or at least it should), respect for the animal is lost in this denial. When I lived in a native Canadian community, eating fresh caribou and salmon, I learned to thank the animal that died for me as I ate. When I returned to a world of beef and chicken wrapped in styrofoam and cellophane, I found that the gift the animal gave is too easily forgotten. By choosing not to think of it, we choose not to be grateful. The respect is gone.
I bow to hunters, farmers and vegetarians, for in the modern world they seem to be the last who remember where meat comes from. I take the angry posts at this reminder as proof. Thanks for making us think opti.
b4man (15) 2005-09-28 12:16
Wouldnt want to hang it on my wall, but it is certainly a picture that says something, and forces people to think about where the food they eat (and photograph)comes from.
maurazos (0) 2005-09-29 18:00
Cruel, but a good picture anyway. The author could see the best of that image and create a very impactant composition. Regards.
alabama_pl (340) 2005-10-02 11:51
I agree completely with IaKoop; Life is not a supermatket, so!
ephemere33 (9743) 2005-10-05 3:28
je ne comprends pas le plasir de partager ce genre de photo sur TE et autres sites d'aillieurs...je n'aime pas du tout et rejoinds tous mes amis sur les commentaires négatifs, qui ne sauraient en être autrement...celà n'apporte rien et on se fait vite une opinion sur la personne qui poste ce genre de photo...la nature est si belle...gardons là telle quelle...et en plus la note accompagnant cette horrible image me fait vomir...suis désolée de ne pas accepter..c'est trop cruel...BI
Philip (372) 2005-10-05 3:46
haha I loved reading everyone's comments. its a dead animal, whats the big deal? im giving you points just for having the guts to post this with all the tree huggers around ;0) there is no cruelty here, the animal is obviously already dead. I think the animal could be a little better framed in the shot. keep posting!
d3viant (386) 2005-10-07 15:55
It's a controversial shot, and tree-huggers be damned - this is life, people! This IS how it is!
I wouldn't personally have posted it, but good on ya for having the balls. It definitely got people thinking! You're right - if it shocks you, then why aren't you vegetarian!
rajhema (1873) 2005-10-12 12:06
Read all the comments. I stand in the middle. I still feel this picture doesnot have to be shown at all. Like IaKoop says, there is reality and it doesnot have to be expressed this raw. I read your comments as well and appreciate your expression.
remi06 (0) 2005-10-14 6:00
I think you just missed the goal of this site. Pictures like that have no relation at all with what we all try to do : get in a snapshopt the best of our world though pictures.
Ok, we know that we all have to eat tolive, but this has nothing to do with art(even though I am not pretending at all to be an artist).
Most of the time, you can make detect into our world's misery something beautiful, from a smile, a face, a look. And this is the real challenge. But always in keeping respect, like someone said befor me.
nofer (3215) 2005-10-14 21:13
sines (0) 2005-10-19 12:34
How can I use a smiley to qualify that "shot". It is a real shot, but about death. There is no reason to post such a photo on this site even if its to recommend us to become vegetarian. There are other better ways. It is really disgusting in my point of view and I share all the critiques and comments made by TE members. It deserves no point at all even the first one who recommends improvement. How can you improve it? Of course we are animals and we, "society" kill to eat, but the image is too violent, too cruel for my eyes. I would add that if we say that TE is to learn about the world through photographie, why don't we post people making love, why don't we post people being executed, operated, why don't we post dead people lying on the floor after a drama, or whatever...All those things exist even worse. We can find a way to express the same feeling without using and showing it. I think when you reach that point, then you can consider yourself as a photographer...
banyanman (7789) 2005-10-30 7:48
It is a pity that this ended up on the front page of TE today (I suppose what gets shown on the front page is automated because I am sure Adam would not have deliberately given this shot such profile). Whatever its technical merits may be, and whatever your motives were in trying to 'shock', it is in bad taste and completely out place on this site.
toni_al (15875) 2005-11-06 17:41
Je pense que cette photo est très mal placée dans se site. Personnellement je n'aime pas.
imagiste (62) 2005-11-06 19:01
Un point pour le "guts" de publier cette photo et d'avoir démarré un bon nombre de discussions intéressantes, que ce soit sur la définition d'un photographe ou l'acceptabilité d'images dures selon certains points de vue...
Sans doute la présence d'un seul élément supplémentaire pertinent à ton sujet, même en arrière-plan et hors-foyer, aurait permis une lecture au deuxième degré, assuré une composition moins... crûe :o) et aurait fait pencher certaines critiques en ta faveur parce qu'on se serait plus attardé au message qu'à la forme. C'est l'un des pouvoirs de la photographie que de donner une forme supportable à un contenu difficile. Cette "mise en forme" - l'art, dit-on... - facilite la prise de conscience et l'acceptation du sujet.
Continue à aiguiser ton regard et à nous faire profiter des résultats.
majastan (75) 2005-11-10 5:51
I am not shocked or disgusted by this photo because this is life and it happens. But I also belive that this photo is not for this site because it doesn't tell much about the world and photography. You should really consider to publish it somewhere else.
Maybe this is your work, but I'm not interested to see what do do at work, but I'm interested to see the photos of the world and your travels. How do you see that?
Porteplume (3440) 2005-11-10 7:05
Je ne suis pas "sanguinaire", je déteste la violence, la guerre et ceux qui font souffrir les animaux, mais cette photo ne me choque pas.
C'est la vie de tous les jours pour bon nombre d'entre nous. Cet animal a été élevé dans de bonnes conditions et il va maintenant nourrir celui qui l'a nourri.
Je me demande combien des précédents critiqueurs ont réfléchi aux conditions dans lesquelles l'animal qui a produit le morceau de porc/boeuf/poulet/dinde etc... et même votre oeuf! - dans leur assiette, a été élevé.
Je reprendrai donc les mots de Mike/mdchachi : "This photo indeed tells us something about the world. Your title indicates that the animal has been killed for food so it's no different than the pictures of dead dogs, pigs, ducks, etc that we see on TE. So I've learned that rabbits are hunted and eaten in Quebec."
* C'est la photo de Fil - with only green smileys - qui m'a poussée à donner un commentaire.
bboss (3578) 2005-12-04 20:02
Hmmm interesting. The photo and the the discussion has made me think, which is good, and that alone validates the photo in my opinion, and is more important that whether the photo is good or not.
As a vegetarian I find the idea of killing animals repulsive, but this is a photograph and you are not reponsible for the animals death. I find in quite amusing that most of the negative reactions you have received are from meat eater, (statistically this must be true - apologies to any veggies who have criticised it ) ie those who are responsible each day for the death of countless animals, but then feel repulsed to see a photo of the death that they cause. This is pure hypocrisy, hilarious
dmitriy55 (275) 2005-12-04 21:23
As several people have already pointed out, I disagree with the close-minded reactions of others. This photo does indeed stir a lot of emotion. I see this as one of the virtues of photography in general. As some have also pointed out, we live in the real world and the emotions associated with it are not always positive. There is no reason to sugarcoat the world. Life is life and one of the virtues of TE is illustrating it. Much like other good photos on TE, this picture illustrates nuances of this world and helps us see and learn more of it.
Please don't see this as coldhearted. I love rabbits and think they are the most adorable animals, but it is a simple reality that they are food for many people and have to die as a result. Moreover, death is simply part of this world. Even without human intervention, rabbits are eaten by predators. It's the food chain; its the circle of life. We must look at this world objectively and see it as is. It is very sad to see a rabbit die, but such is the reality of life and we must accept it.
On the technical side, this photo is very well composed. As some have pointed out, the composition is very well done and the contrast between the cuteness of the rabbit and the dark drops of blood is stunning. If I am not mistaken, the purpose of this photograph was precicely to show that and I think that the photographer accomplished the job well.
Again, it is very, very sad to see a rabbit die, but c'est la vie... :-(
sotirios (20) 2005-12-07 7:26
Well the truth is that i don't like your photo as a standalone,but comparing it to photos with usa entering Bagdad and all that your photo is a quality one.
The hole thought started in my mind by seeing the blood and comparing it with other much bloodier cituations.
If someone finds this offensive imagine how offensive it is for Iraqis to see the previus photos i mentioned. And don't anyone start that lies again about that usa gave freedom to that nation.
dege_801s (25) 2005-12-07 7:48
" buat saya foto ini sangat tidak banyak pengaruh nya di fotografi karena meskipun banyak orang di sini bilang bahwa gaya dari foto ini sangat ke arah jurnalistik tapi sayang nya bagi saya ini adalah perbuatan yang di tujukan hanya menyatakan bahwa foto ini menerangkan ke viewer kalau foto ini tergolong bebas tapi sayang nya tidak ada sense apa apa di dalam foto ini"
Find it in your dictionary, to know exactly what i said
songsaboutjane (78) 2005-12-07 8:16
bad shot. give a simple stress at the sight is not a good way to make photography. Please remove it out. I know that's life in a world of violence, but at least on ths website it should not be shared.
shel (102) 2005-12-09 11:16
There is a photo on this site that shows a woman in a third-world country trying desperately to avoid having her photo taken. She is clearly in extreme distress. The note attached to that photo basically explains that the photographer doesn't give a damn about the woman's distress. That I find obscene.
And yet, that photo attracted only 2 negative critiques, compared to this one.
What a strange world we live in.
Domo (2) 2005-12-14 15:51
HI, I was a gamekeeper for 3 years, so this does not shock me, however putting an image like this does not do anything for game keeping as a business, it only adds fuel to the fire, more and more keepers are loosing their jobs because some folk do not understand the nature of country life, seeing images like this will not help in anyway. When I was keeping I always made sure that game, living or dead were treated with respect, I believe that some animals were put on this earth for humans to survive, this does not mean we have to parade them like trophies. As a former gamekeeper I appologise on behalf of this photographer to all the people that have been affended by this image. This should not have been posted.
Gerrit (51906) 2005-12-16 2:53
I want to make a late tribute to this discussion because I've been through the same matter a week before you did.
I posted a picture of a dead oppossum on the 2th of october, a traffic-victim from Guatemala.
In no-time the negative reactions were there while pictures I posted before of barefooted poor people who looked for food in garbage-cans or old folks carrying huge loads of wood on their back couldn't provoke no reaction at all.
There is even a parallel between the answers you gave and mine.
Thanks for your tribute and regards, Gerrit
TeresaT (10806) 2005-12-18 18:15
If the point of this picture was to shoking the viewers ...you achieve your purpose...congratulations!!
kckuddes (276) 2005-12-19 17:51
It's a very powerful photograph and more so for people that have not grown up on a farm. When I was young we lived on a farm in Kansas where we raised rabbits for food among other animals. I have also seen a rapture which is far more brutil than a farms means of killing.
Matiash (128) 2005-12-26 13:48
Firstly I'd like to say that I don't like killing animals but this time I had to write this critique. As we can see there are many reactions, some positives and some negatives. Anyway THE PHOTO MUST BE GOOD because many people have different feelings and it is controversial. Those who criticized you and gave you a bad note show that this is really good!
keithor (63) 2006-01-15 14:08
Aside from the politics involved with this photo I think that the picture is of good composition and focused well. I think that the people who are most offended by your photo should consider what it was you said in your notes and consider the vegetarian option.
I think that this shot is not much different than some photo-journalism shots that I have seen in the past. Some photos are offensive to some and brilliant to others. I personally see no diference between a couple of drops of blood dripping from a rabbits nose and a couple of tears streaming down a womans face, because she just found out that her husband died in the tsunami. I agree with neither photo but I suppose I can see the merit in shooting both. Please tell me that those who are offended by this picture are also offended by the people screaming in a photo taken at sept. 11. All of these events are painful to watch and painful to be reminded of but I believe that pictures of dead animals should be less offensive that pictures of Human losses or Human sorrows. Bravo on such a controversial photo.
And Thank You for sharing.
Klapaucius (623) 2006-01-27 12:22
Fascinatingly grim image. I can't help but look closer and look more at it.
gelor (3229) 2006-01-27 13:01
J'ai osé une fois proposer une photo relative aux pratiques de la chasse. Je l'ai retirée bien vite suite aux commentaires reçus. Bien que chasseur, je nourris les oiseaux de mon jardin chaque jour. Cette semaine, ils ont consommé trois kilos de graines de tournesol. Je dispose également des nids... La chasse est une activité qui protège la nature, je le soutiens. Quelques personnes irrespectueuses de l'animal ne doivent pas jeter le discrédit sur une majorité qui sait ce qu'elle fait ! Faire souffrir des animaux est complètement inadmissible et me révulse. De toute évidence, ce n'est pas ici le cas. Nourrir des lapins ou des volailles pour les consommer provoque encore ce genre de réactions bien que les conditions d'élevage et d'abattage respectent les règles que s'imposent toutes les personnes raisonnables et sensibles me semble pour le moins hypocrite (et je pèse mes mots). Faut-il imposer que nous soyons tous végétariens ? Ta photo déclenche une discussion et c'est déjà une raison pour qu'elle existe. Savoir si c'est le lieu est un autre problème. En tout cas le classement dans "moment décisif" me semble bienvenu. Ta notation devrait s'en ressentir dans l'avenir, ce n'est pas une prédiction...
Dans les images qui sont partagées je suis bien plus choqué par la condition des enfants, en particulier en Afrique. Que chacun se mobilise pour apporter un peu d'avenir à ces populations ! Ce que certains d'entre nous font à titre individuel serait bien plus efficace si nous savions nous grouper pour exiger plus d'humanisme. La bonne image, c'est très bien mais qu'elle soit utilisée pour sensibiliser est mieux encore. Mesdames et messieurs les moralisateurs, posez-vous la question de savoir quel pourcentage de votre revenu vous avez consacré à ces enfants. Tant pis si mes propos choquent.
elBud (2237) 2006-02-06 21:31
Hmmm... con todo el respeto que merece cada uno de ustedes, con todo el respeto que merece Jf Dion, esta imagen, sin importar lo buena que sea, sin importar los puntos que obtengas, no es muy agradable, por que es un animal, un ser vivo, realmente como dice joseelias, todos sabemos que cosas asi se ven en este mundo, pues nosotros, las personas, somos los depredadores mas grande que existen, y debemos tratar de no abusar de nuestro planeta, que facilmente lo acabamos.
Hay personas que entiendo que apoyan que la fotografia sea sin limites, y yo se que es asi, por que todos hemos visto fotografias en los diarios y en las noticias que no son agradables, pero esta pagina TREKEARTH, al parecer acepta este tipo de fotografias, pues es nuestro deber respetar que sea aceptada, me imagino que si no fuera asi, ellos la eliminarian o la hubiese eliminado, amen.
FORJP001 (3819) 2006-02-08 21:50
Cela fait plusiers fois que je vois paraître cette photo dans le générique de TE, et telle photo se prête si bien à la controverse que je ne peux m'empêcher, à mon tour, de mettre mon grain de sel pour Le repas!!! .
Nonobstant les pour et les contre je dois tirer mon chapeau au photographe qui, au départ, savait qu'il allait choquer et provoquer une réaction pour ou contre on s'en fiche...L'important était de provoquer une réaction et c'est très bien réussi si on compte le nombre de smiley pour et les ceuses qui sont contre.
J'ai remarqué dans le cas de cette photographie, que l'oeil veut voir ce qu'il aimerait voir et essaie par toutes sortes de façon ou de subterfuges de masquer la réalité mais il ne peut le faire alors il s'en prend à la critique et est heureux d'avoir trouvé cette échapatoire pour se défouler et jeter son dévolu au su et à la vue de tous de TE. Juste à lire tous ces critiques des plus élogieuses et on comprendra tout ou rien du tout selon que l'on est pour ou contre la publication de la photo.
Félicitaion pour avoir suscité une telle controverse et vous l'avez mérité amplement votre smiley souriant.
GusTheo (80) 2006-02-16 21:34
The picture would have been better if the blood was redder.
DanielFilipe (94) 2006-02-18 18:18
Imagens como esta são parte deste mundo. Independentemente da fotografia destuar com a grande maioria das fotografias expostas neste site e de ser ofensiva para muitas pessoas, a censura e bem pior.
davicin (166) 2006-02-21 6:21
Cuanta falsedad se percibe en el ambiente. No he visto críticas a alguna foto en el mercado del pescado de Tokio, con peces destripados y rajados, ¿que es? ¿una cuestión puramente estética?
No pongo más valoración a la foto sinceramente, porque no es una foto de especial calidad, salvo por el momento o la intención. Quiza su merito es montar la que ha montado.
Podriamos prohibir las fotos de otras realidades crueles , de guerra, por ejemplo, o todas esa preciosa fotogenia de la pobreza que tan bonitas fotos nos da en la india, paises asiaticos, etc...
Y en cuanto a los objetivos de trekearth y ese supuesto ¿por que esta esto aqui?... podriamos cargar contra todas las fotos de puertas, de detalles de muros, puestas de sol...
En fín, no entiendo tanto espíritu susceptible. Creo que hay mucha hipocresía suelta... me guste la foto o no.
capthaddock (28790) 2006-03-28 13:59
The reason this attracts so much attention is it keeps popping up on the front page every 5 minutes, so finally I'll have my say and walk away. I agree with David (bboss) here, it's not that bad and does show reality behind packaged supermarket goods. Probably the reason so many are shocked by it is the eyes look so alive, the image quality is so vivid. I don't eat rabbits, but other graphic depictions of hacked animals sold in asian markets is much more disgusting than this. I would give it 1 point if my daily allowance was not depleted.
flydragon (0) 2006-04-04 6:50
bon voici un commentaire presque deux ans apres,
mais je suis tombé sur cette page par hasard.
tu dis : " Ce lapin est né, a été élevé et est mort dans le respect"
moi je dirai si tu aimes et respecte tes lapins, je ne trouve pas cette photo
tres respectueuse. tu ne lui pas rendu hommage ici.
franchement je trouve ça de tres mauvais gout, pour quelqu'un qui se dit aimer
euryan (8440) 2006-05-05 22:42
I guess I'll have my say now. First of all, it was very entertaining to read some people's close-minded critiques. I find it interesting that so many people are upset over this photo. Obviously it has been reported many times as a "Violation", but Adam, with his infinite knowledge and understanding has not only chosen to keep it, but to use it on the front page. I like IaKoop's critique and am glad that it is used as an example of a good critique i.e. "Featured Critique".
As for the photo; I like the tight composition, and I think that the dripping blood helps illustrate the story of "the meal".
ein22 (478) 2006-05-08 3:27
.... ummmm I really am speechless but want to say something postive towards this great photo.
The Blood lingering on the haresnose is really creepy. I mean the last glint in it's eye as it hangs there is really intense to look at. I commend you heaps with this photo.
olirey (193) 2006-05-15 9:51
Je suis assez d'accord. C'est une photo choc bien réalisée, pour un sujet délicat. Ca sort du sujet photographique mais j'en profite :
Je crois que l'élément important, c'est effectivement le respet. Moi aussi je préfererais être végétarien. Mais ce n'est pas facile. Alors je consomme peu de viande, mais mieux. Je mange très peu de boeuf et de porc car je suis contre la façon dont ils sont élevés. Pour les autres, je choisi des petits producteurs régionaux ou des produits biologiques. Par exemple je n'achète que des oeufs de poules élevées en aire ouverte. Je voudrais aussi choisir plus de produits équitables, comme le sucre, les bananes etc. pour ne pas faire subir mon confort de vie aux gens moins favorisés que moi.
haijekov (189) 2006-05-18 21:41
Truely one of the most controversial pictures i've ever seen ... really intense ... painful in a way that would make me feel like crap for an instant, hate you even for a couple of moments for taking it. i am in pain actually.
but still i have second thoughts ... u made me feel something because of this picture ... i'm not a vegetarian will probably never be one ... so the feeling's not related to your note but still that picture made me flinch. and i think that makes it a successful shot. so despite starting to write this after clicking on the NR, i'll give you two points ... but please, go easy on us here
WhistlingChill (8) 2006-05-18 22:05
i really had some kind of a chill when i looked at the photo...soo cruel but yet it has something that made me look at it for a second n that makes it a successful shot i guess..though i dun like the comment not really related to the feeling u get when u look at the photo ..... anyways still think that picturing the animals alive is much better .
david (3992) 2006-06-02 3:16
why does learning abou the world have to be tasteful?
it's ok to show cambodians living in dumps, it's ok to show people begging in the streets. why not show a dead rabbit??
as long as photos such as this serve a purpose and meaning, then it's very appropriate for trek earth.
i think people here are just too easily offended ... if you don't want to be offended, disconnect your internet and go live in the box your computer came in!
although this shot makes me squirmish, i applaud the photographer for capturing the image. i might have converted it to b&w to make it more graphically appealing.
great shot ... creating a controversy is a good thing! well done! :)
bliard (1116) 2006-06-12 11:39
It's a good picture. It show a reality on how people live and what you can see in Quebec in rural place. A lot of hunting here... A good picture also is one that do attract your attention. And personnaly, I've put a picture on TE that is almost the same:
France reality... in the south, you kill to eat and you buy livestock! Not in Quebec!
Mostasz (33) 2006-06-12 12:37
OK Photo wish the whole ear was in the shot
I think this photo shows the harsh reality of life ,
I find it interesting that lots of people have no problem with animals that are slathered in cruel ways and sold in supermarkets
But they have a problem with a rabbit that has been shot
Nevertheless I agree it should be on TL not on TE
It could be in any country
CelticNomad (2) 2006-07-13 22:01
I wanted to add my 2 cents worth on this one. I am a new member and I enjoy showing the world through my eyes, as well as seeing it through others. It is important to show things the way are. In photojournalism, a photojournalist records events as they happen, and the aftermath of those events. their goal is to be unbiased ( usually) and show what THEY see. In respect to this, I congradulate this Photographer for showing an event or the aftermath of an event for what they saw in it. This is only my second critique on TrekEarth, But I have to say I am disappointed in all of the rookie views in that there is an unjustafiable ignorance of people wanting to censor something because they don't like or agree with it.
Technically speaking I would like to see the contrast bumped up a bit and and maybe you could play with the background and dodge or burn it a bit to make the rabbit stand out. Play with the negative space and see how you like it. Any chance of posting this as a workshop?
Keep shooting, even if others don't agree with you.
rahul__rahul__ (2250) 2006-07-18 16:08
This picture has the highest number of that bad smiley that I have seen out of them all on TE! I do not really think that it is bad to show this on TE, technically well too.
Graymond (234) 2006-07-24 23:50
As far as the photo goes, it's a really good shot which obviously brings an emotional response to it's many viewers.
I don't see it's place on this site, considering that, I really can't see TE as an appropriate forum for this upload. Maybe on of the other Trek sites would be more appropriate.
Otherwise, a solid shot and a good capture.
PogoStick (510) 2006-07-26 19:46
i love it. well composed and speaks volumes. it wouldn't be nearly as effective if there were no blood present. the thoughts this image conjures up in peoples mindsd is the definition of art.
indoka28 (5261) 2006-07-27 14:41
Very nice photograph with a message which is acceptable or not acceptable is the bone of contention..!!!
A beautiful animal slautered for food or for fun..The main point is killing another life.I would just take this photograph of your as a piece of art as it should be taken on this site.Good clarity and good sense of timing for the photograph.
Killing another life is always considered ghastly then why the ghastlyness of the killing change with the size of animal killed..and why do it consider it gory and unethical to view the killing when we dont think twice before we slomp down a Ham or a steak..that part we eat so dearly was part of a living body.The point I see here is your boldness to show the truth and sending in a message possibly even after knowing that it will attract such kind of mixed reaction from different segment of people.
I guess we should try to inculcate some amount of humanity in ourselves and educate ourself regarding peace with each other as we kill each other for the most petty things in life.If we cant respect fellow human being then we are anyways far below animals also as they kill to eat and not for nothing.
As I told you earlier I take this pic to be a piece of art and here I am posting a workshop on the same pic from a different point of view for anybody who is upset with the pic and its presentation....I am sorry for tresspassing...I hope You like it
Georges (11185) 2006-08-13 3:44
Je tombe par hazard sur cette photo postée en 2004 2 ans apres en gros et je suis surpris de la voir encore sur le site.
Comment peut on autoriser de telle images alors que d'autres interessantes sont supprimées.
Je regarde souvent le site avec ma petite fille qui a un petit lapin de compagnie et elle en a pleuré de voir une photo aussi cruelle.
Je ne condamne pas le geste du boucher qui a fait sa car cela fait partis d'un quotidien, mais le votre qui prend un malin plaisir a photographier une scene de ce type.
La prochaine fois essayer de cadrer au moins correctement si cela etait dans vos possibilités bien sur!!!!!
La 1ere fois que je met vraiment de bon coeur un vrai bonhomme vert clair et franchement m'attarder dessue cette photo est deja beaucoup.
I fall by hazard on this photograph posted in 2004 2 years after approximately and I am surprised to still see it on the site. How can one authorize of such images whereas the other interesting ones are removed. I often look at the site with my small daughter who has a small rabbit of company and it cried about it to see such a cruel photograph. I do not condemn the gesture of the butcher who made his bus that made parties of a daily newspaper, but it a your which takes malicious pleasure has to photograph a scene of this type. The next time to try to tally at least correctly if that were in your possibilities well on!!!!! The 1st time that I really good heart a true green catch clearly puts and frankly to delay me dessue this photograph is already much.
hizbul (171) 2006-08-15 3:28
If you pretend that you were not aware with this particularly horrified image, then IMHO, you miss your chance to deliver your massage...
NB: Can anyone translate this gentlement's note into English?
lukasson (133) 2006-08-28 15:54
Wow, for some enlightened "artists" alot of the people on this site are particularly narrow minded.
People saying, "this teaches me nothing, i know rabbits die and bleed..."
That's like looking at a photo of a bird and saying "I learn nothing from this photo. I know birds can fly..."
Personally, i have no idea what the note says, however, i think this is a great shot, and the death is obviously inflicted by man (either that or a very clever fox) There is a sadness in the rabbits eye, and his rich red blood dripping from his nose looks fresh and still warm.
limaz (406) 2006-09-10 9:27
I must admidt that when I saw the small shot of this I thought "what the..". But curiosity filled me and I tried to translate as best I could your notes. And I do not understand why people feel so violated by this shot. It is a shot depicting the real issues in life. Food is a vital part of life and not every part of the globe has a major shoppingcentre where one can buy what one needs. The majority of people live on a day to day basis and I feel this shot gives a good view of that.
On a photographical note the moment captured is great and I love the fact that one can see the reflection of the photographer in the eye of the rabbit. Just that simple imagery show what happened... Mans quest for food..not a senseless killing
jrzufferey (7305) 2006-09-10 13:56
Comme gelor j'ai mis une ou deux fois des images de chasse, ça ne passe pas très bien et je peux le comprendre j'en ai fait l'expérience. Mais de là à refuser d'admettre une réalité de tous les jours et de tous les consommateurs de viande il y a un cheminement à faire. La réalité de votre assiette passe par de semblable image, alors bravo à Opti s'il réussit à le faire dans le grand respect le sacrifice de l'animal. Pour la photographie... effectivement sans l'avoir vu pas de débat. Amitié à vous tous /jr
As gelor I put one or twice images of hunting, that does not pass very well and I can include/understand it I made the experiment of it. But from there to refuse to admit a reality of the every the meat day and all consumers there is a advance to make. The reality of your plate passes by similar image, then cheer with Opti if it succeeds in doing it in the large respect of the sacrifice of the animal. For photography… without to have indeed seen it not debate. Friendship with you all /jr
battousai (827) 2006-09-10 18:16
Argh... a real war broke up here on Trek Earth...
I won't be writing anything about this photo. Controversial or not... it is as it is.
One question... why can't I post it to workshop?! Why did you block workshop option for this photo :( ?
Sherrish (0) 2006-10-13 10:03
I am at a loss as to why this image repeatedly appears as featured image on Trekearth's main page. I understand this to be a sight devoted to learning about the world through photography and, whatever interesting message this photo has to convey, is has done so thoroughly many times over. The sight gets MANY wonderful photos – many excellent examples – and I believe the editors of the site could move on and give others a chance to be featured. Please?
Iuli (838) 2006-10-13 10:05
Indeed a very controversial shot. I'm gonna have it both ways though.
On one hand, I support you for posting this shot on TE. I think have a lot to learn about ourselves watching this photo. I found your note very much appropriate and very useful. It's good you eventually added it if you didn't do so at the time you posted it.
On the other hand, I agree with people crying foul too. But that's in part because, we shouldn't shut off someone just because we disagree with them. I agree that this image is offensive considering what we've become and I understand how repugnant it may appear to some. But that doesn't mean at all that you should remove it from this site. It does have a point, it sais something... it teaches us something we are supposed to know.
I can't stand the "I don't care" attitude that we see around us so often. We have to learn to care about the consequences of our actions. I heared so many times illogical statements like "this pig is already dead, so I'm not responsible for killing it. I'm just buying the meat. And besides that, it was raised to be killed and to become our food. This is no crime". Of course it's dead, but it has been killed because we are buying it. All sorts of industries exist because we are supporting them by being consumers. We are killing those pigs and cows and lambs and whatever else. We are holding those chicken piled up a million in a small cage. We are poisoning ourselves with all sorts of modified foods. I could go on and on like this but I'm divagating... All I mean to say is that you are perfectly right in what you state in your note, as it is at this time: let's all become vegetarians and kill only plants if we can't stand the idea of killing animals for food.
Artistically, I don't have much to say about your photo but I don't thing is missing anything considering the fight it started.
Peter_rggu (193) 2006-10-29 7:58
awful idea. it is not necessary to post such pictures here.
kittyhawk (1712) 2006-11-09 13:43
I think you captured an image worthi of debate. I how ever think that there is nothing more natural for us humans to kill what we eat. More and more people think that meat comes from the store, and do not know how it really is produced. Since I grew up in a rural comunity hunting, fishing and farming are a natural way of life to me. I think that people should respect farmer, hunters and fishermen more, they litterally produce the food we all eat. Either we eat salad, or meat we still depend on the people who produce this. So I see this as a tribute to the circle of life, and a thank you to the animals we eat. Thank you very much for sharing this powerfull image with us.
limule (4176) 2006-11-16 15:57
Bonsoir, la photo est reussie, techniquement et le sujet est perturbant, vu le nombres de commenatires que tu as recu... et elle est bien dans le sujet car elle concerne l activite predatrice de l homme sur la planete.... c est donc bien une decouverte du monde. Je suis chercheur et je travaille dans le domaine de la recherche contre le cancer, avec des animaux. Et j'aime les animaux, comme peut en temoigner les photos postees sur TN. Alors oui ta photo est utile, oui la question philosophique du comportement de l' homme en direction des animaux est une question importante, oui il y a des gens , dont je fais partie, qui vivent leur vie professionnelle en se posant cette question..... par ailleurs, il y a des photos sur des hommes, qui n' ont pas choisi leur sort, plus difficile a regarder que celle ci, pour moi en tout cas....
The_Ruller (0) 2006-11-16 15:57
This is simply HORRIBLE!
There is no reason for a so cruel shot being shown here!
Ioan (49) 2006-11-18 12:05
It is a very powerfull photo. Very nice contrast. Although I admit it, it's a little bit chilly, I don't agree with the one who think that this isn't a photo appropriate for TE. TE tries to show us the world through photography. The world and the life itself has also a dark side. I think photos with subject like yours are more then welcome on this site if are of good quality and have a good comment. Your photo adds a little bit of realism on TE. Regards
naznaz567 (344) 2006-11-19 16:13
I raise rabbits as pets.
Every so often, a hawk gets to a baby rabbit and dismembers it savagely. It is gruesome, violent, and shocking, but it is a fact of life.
Humans eat animals. It is a fact of life. Censoring this is not appropriate. Those who do not wish to look can move on.
This is a beautiful and powerful photograph, albeit disturbing.
rafid76 (0) 2006-11-28 14:30
i like this image, not because im for killing animals but i think we have something common you should click on my USA images and see my hunting pics and all the negative comments i recived but they were mostly thru my email.
they eyes opening creeps me out! but well taken
y2kosan (31) 2006-11-28 21:37
everyone has their own point-of-view. yes i do agree, that the pix is gruesome in someway. but who are we to judge on what is really good and what is bad.
from the photographer's prespective, something could have been running through his head at the time.
if this is offensive then, let it be and move on. change the pix. let this slide, but do allow others to vent their opinion. let us not silence others with ones personal feeling.
it is a very good pix. subject may be a little bit gruesome. but still good composition.
keep on taking good pix...
rickl69 (124) 2006-11-29 11:16
People need to understand one thing. This web page is called TrekEarth. The idea is to share life experiance from around the world. People kill and eat animals for both sport, and survival. Its part of life. I think this is a fantastic image of reality. Death is part of life to include the life blood running from the dead. The only problem I have with this shot is the cropping is a bit too tight on the paws and ears. This is truly a very telling photo.
Liekje (574) 2006-12-13 17:24
Wow! The other face of the Christmas celebrations, well captured!
Very interesting and straight forward.
Noire (14) 2006-12-15 5:25
great job on this shot.
I think it works well for the criteria of trek earth. Trek Earth is about learning about different parts of the world through photography. I could not understand all the French in your writeup. If you're talking about vegetarianism, and some context of maybe how it was killed, or why, or some sort of insight on the situation, and maybe with some Canadian content regarding this photo, I would say this is a great unique picture. Like some already said you yourself posed no cruelty to this animal, as it was already dead.
This is definately not a cookie cutter image, and hats off to you for making an attempt to show "not just the pretty in the world." Moreso, this, to me is artisitic, as it evokes controversy, interest and discgust through your interpretation of this situation through your lens.
labbai (127) 2006-12-15 15:40
Great shot! Nowdays we escape from where we are from; the nature. This is death. Hope this rabbit was skinned good before cooking. Nice capture! This is life as a human hunter feels it!
jsec (2154) 2006-12-20 7:22
I always say, dont take a picture if you wouldn't like to hang it on your wall. In that respect this image is quite a poor capture. There are better subjects to dwell on.
Vicky (1446) 2006-12-26 6:05
I don't know why this picture appears so regularly on the opening page of this site. I can appreciate both sides of the argument for why it is here at all, but I have to say, personally, I don't like it. We all know it goes on, but I don't want to see it here, thankyou.
jazu (415) 2006-12-31 17:26
One comment. You must be a very troubled man
Giis (258) 2007-01-03 15:31
Hello JF, with all the respect, its the first time I put a sad face, I use to see beautiful sights on the photos, TE is for enjoy images, but its difficult enjoy your topic, where is the art??!!!, its disgusting to see your thumbnail in the first page. Sorry, I hope to see better things from u!.
imagizer (54) 2007-01-08 9:20
This photo has to look for here nothing. Remove please immediately. Terribly!!
velocista (897) 2007-01-08 9:27
It is the first time that i use this sad face to comment one photo! This is a very cruel photo that does not fit in the TE aim. Even if the photo has a very good quality this is not the best site to put something like this! Otherwise we would start to see dead cows, pigs, lambs, or in the worst case, dead persons!!! There are plenty of subjects to be used to make good photos without shocking the other members of this great site!!
gertan (1527) 2007-01-10 5:59
Don't like it. There isn't any message or technique here.
sjofre (123) 2007-01-10 11:39
É uma imagem polémica e, como tal, tem muita gente contra e muita gente a favor. Como fotografia, em termos de arte, talvez tenha interesse, eu não o encontro. Julgo que tudo o que potencia a violência não tem interesse. A mim choca-me e deixa-me triste. Em termos de TE não lhe vejo qualquer interesse. Não vejo aqui retratada nenhuma cultura, nenhuma imagem que nos mostre a nossa terra... apenas vejo um coelho morto e exposto para toda a gente ver, mesmo os que não queriam ver. Isso, a mim, parece-me uma provocação e uma ostentação desnecessária de uma violência parva.
bstreeck (179) 2007-01-17 2:18
The picture itsself is not very good, the background is quite bad, much better would have been the out-of-focus "butcher" going at the next rabbit while this one is hung out to drain. That would have given the picture more message, more dynamics.
For the subject, sure, why not? This is life, Humans eat meat, animals are meat and so: buon appetitt.
manub (920) 2007-01-17 2:21
This shot and all the debate around it makes me think of all the good-thinking people on TE, praising photographers taking thousends of tons of pictures of human misery, in India, Mali, Peru, etc. homeless in France, in the US, all the "poor-and-sad-little-children-of-the-world", well, poor and sad, but soooooo cuuuute and nice on a photo.
All the good-thinking that praise this kind af photography but are shoked to see a single dead bunny. A banal and normal photo. A bunny is going to be eaten. Point. Not very interesting photo, but I can't understand the hypocrits who say this is shocking.
A photograph of a child on a garbage hill, is ok, it's even "magnificient", "soooo powerful and touching" for the (mostly) rich viewers of TE. But a dead rabbit is a shame??????
yuo (1182) 2007-01-25 0:32
sorry, i don't understood french language(your note)..
this image is good powerful image.
but colors and background is not too good.
i think it is NOT cruel when you killed to eat.
because, we ate alot of other life.
garageolympo (242) 2007-01-27 3:29
Good work. I mean the photograph.
Cortez236 (1275) 2007-02-02 17:36
AAAHHHHH, WHO CARES.
It's still a well taken picture & stuff like this is what happens every day for our meat-wether we are involved in it's execution or not.
I don't think this picture has been taken for shock or political value, it has artistic & social value though.
We should wake up to ourselves.
Regards & respects JF, David Cortez.
(neither animal nor vegetable).
neilwade (147) 2007-02-02 20:56
It's not very often that I see a photograph that I'm actually jealous of. This is an incredible capture and I'm ashamed to admit that I'll probably spend the next few years of my life looking for a similar one to put in my portfolio (Maybe I can find a deer or something).
As for a critique: It's underexposed. Open it in Photoshop and hit "Auto Levels", it would make a big difference. I love the gleam in the rabbit's eye. Maybe you could have used a flash to add a little contrast. But the composition is excellent.
As for the controversy: I really enjoyed reading the comments here. I can't believe anyone would say that this doesn't say anything about our world. Some even say that it has a "lack of content". Obviously it has tons of content to envoke such a response from so many people. If this doesn't say anything about our world, what does a picture of a tree or a river or a pretty sunset say? The world isn't rosey. The world is much more harsh than anyone on a western world could ever imagine. Even those of us that travel to "3rd world countries" don't get it. Life is hard for most of the life on this planet.
This picture reminds us of our own hipocracy and the cruelty in every one of our backyards and cupboards. Congratulations.
rigoletto (34279) 2007-02-08 13:30
I am actually fed up with seeing this dead animal several times a week on the homepage of TE. I am not such a romantic person to be captured by the charm of its face, what catches me here is the drama and power of the dripping blood. It is not my bussiness feeling pity for a game animal, even if i had a bunny toy in my childhood which i really adored. Eventually life is life, and this crazy debate running here about animal rights, photography ethics, being a vegeterian or a carnivour is so nonesense for me while people are legally being slaughtered everywhere in the world with the powerful weapons of the ruthless states.
UnTrained (0) 2007-02-10 9:05
Hi there, as this is more to the community than to jf. His last work seems to be from last year.
The capture is offending, yes. It is not cruel. From my perspective it is not cruel to kill animals for feeding or other reasons of daily needs. I eat meat and fish and use also other things made from animals.
It is not beautiful. Not in the technical aspects (for me) also not in the shown objective. For me there is no need for a capture posted on TE to be beautiful.
The discussion I found here asked me to make my statement. I am very much aware that some might be offended by this statement too. There are only a very few things, which are reality and I would refuse to publish. Censorship is one of the most dangereous things for a democracy. I try to be careful before I decide for me what should not be shown to public.
If there is the need to tell me what you think about my view, please feel free. You are welcome, as I accept discussion. Ulf
joseelias (0) 2007-02-27 9:22
The following critique was written when originally the photo was posted without any note. Just an image of a dead rabbit.
I think death should be treated with respect, no matter being of a human or animal, so when someone presents an image of it, it should be respectfull and at least write some words about it, not making the death of a living being into a freak exhibitionist fair.
Original critique (I think it says all):
"This is the first time I use this smiley in over a year participating. The reason? I find this photo of very bad taste and offensive.
The objective of this site is learn something of the world through photography and this does not teach me anything. I know rabbits die and bleed. Everybody knows that so this photo add no value.
I would accept if in the note this there was a vegetarian manifest, ideas defending the hunt, or even a proposal on how to cook rabbits, but not this way.
This is a disgusting and offensive image. But you know what? Not offensive to us! Offensive to the rabbit which is a living creature and thus deserve respect.
Would you like to see a pet you love exposed this way? Or someone you love? Yes, because in the end we are all the same. Simple living creatures. No more no less.
More, even as a photo it's very bad! One of the worst in the whole site!"
ilghiz (708) 2007-02-27 10:35
I shuddered when I saw the picture... RRRR!
However it doesn't make me become a vegetarian.
Sometimes I imagine what has happened to the animal I am eating... Well, I tell the idea go away... But the idea of thanking animals for serving us (in one of the comments) is good though it can be looked upon as another way of self-cheating. As far as I know, pictures of this kind are not allowed on this site, but I raise my both hands for the picture to stay and go on shocking people... It really teaches a lesson, or at least makes you think of life and death, if you haven't lost all of your feelings yet. ------
I don't agree with those who say it is a bad shot.
The shot is good: a bleeding rabbit vertically placed in sharp focus against a blurred background of horizontal lines.
A representation of life and death...
But giving it a smiley? Hmmm, it is the only way to
show you I have given ya maximum pts.
ebolanos (229) 2007-02-28 12:00
Mi opinion it´s just bad taste, you just have to see the picture of the photographer in his profile to see that he is "different" to say the least, and also it´s not a good picture.
bridi (0) 2007-03-02 8:12
and what do you propose we do? that we feed on sunlight? because eating vegetables is as cruel as eating animals; we just don't care because trees don't have big eyes and soft fur.
to be a vegetarian is just another way of being antropocentristic... we would spare animals because they look like us, not because they're alive...
if a god were to write a new commandment on this subject, would it be "respect cute animals" or "respect LIFE, in all it's forms"??? a crushed worm wouldn't be so shocking... only nauseating...
you couldn't be more appelative...
erhanterzi (2130) 2007-03-08 4:58
That's just a photograph,like it or not.
twjthornton (1888) 2007-03-13 18:07
I give a poor smiley because i think it is a very poor and boring technical photo.
But i fully support the poster for choosing to post it and agree thast it there is no reason he should not.
There are far more offensive things on television everyday and so i choose not too owna television.
If you find this relativeley inncuous picture offensive then you are on the wrong website bevause this is about new things.
And yes, apparently, a dead rabbit is a new thing too you.
amino (418) 2007-03-16 9:25
Not a beautiful scene but true and part of reality. Not sure why the big fuss. If people dont like it, they can ignore it.
The photo impact is powerful. I give that two points for photography...
Rossduncan (20) 2007-03-18 23:36
With all the fuss from so many about how this shot shouldn't be on TE I had to go back and re-read the terms of service and purpose of TE. You see, I'm new to TE and couldn't understand why this wasn't acceptable. Technically its fine, and as some have already pointed out, this shows how some people obtain food. I want to learn about photography from TE but I also want to learn about culture...I am learning a lot from the reactions people have posted. Thanks for posting this picture...poor rabbit.
dragonslayero (3116) 2007-04-01 17:10
It's very obvious that this has to be the most controversial TE photo ever.
I'm just amazed at how many people get disgusted by this photo, yes I call it a photo.
Like someone already has mentioned, why must we always take photos of landscapes, smiling people and so on.
This is a part of reality.
But I have my negative views about it as well.
First of all it really doesn't tell me anything about the world, maybe only that in Canada they hunt for rabbits.
Purely for the note, this photo would proparbly fit better on TL.
My main issue about this photo is just the amount of negative feedback it can generate, come on pull yourselves together. Most of you have eaten lamb chops right?
To tell the truth, I don't find this offensive at all. Heck I grew up with my parents slicing up freshly butched pork in my parents basement, I was 5 years old and was plucking the teeth!
I have never felt any offence to anything like this, and that is the way I want to keep it. Heck even my nieces of 6 and 3 years old don't mind. Heck, this summer they visited their Danish grandfather and they were close witness to him parting a deer. They weren't shocked or scared, they were excited and interested.
So once more, have a little respect to the fact that this is the way life is. If you find the photo offensive then don't comment it.
Hasvelt (88) 2007-04-17 14:23
it's nasty and not really art in my opinion
what's going on trekearth ? people take photos to show their friends and their children, would you show that photo to your x or xx years old child ?
would you be glad seeing that photo on walls, in your office or in subway or anywhere ... come on guys what's with you , be honest , Are the people on the treakearth better educated or experienced so? come on count the "nays" ...
waseemkhan (1099) 2007-04-23 10:01
Hi jf dion ,
saw this picture today and I still don't know, why this have to be posted on a site, where it is the meaning to show pictures of your country. There's even not a note why....
No points .......
andeweg (139) 2007-04-24 7:20
I find this picture revolting, but also very strong. The drops of blood dripping from its nose. It's sad and beautiful at the same time. Because it gives these opposite feelings I thinks this is a very good picture.
jplebrun (21208) 2007-04-24 7:27
Bonjour JF, comme toi je n'aime pas tuer, mais la vie étant ce qu'elle est, nous n'avons tout simplement pas le choix, si on ne veut pas mourir de faim. Je salus votre audace et je rejoins mon ami FORJP001 dans ses comentaires. Au point de vue photo, elle est bien montée avec de belles couleurs.
hobnob (24) 2007-04-25 9:48
I'm sorry, but I can't really see the point of this picture. Maybe if the picture was cut, the composition could be improved. It does also seem a little bit too dark ... but the bleeding and the eye looking straight into the camera adds a dramatic effect.
As mentioned above, I don't know if trekearth is the correct forum for this picture.
LoQuiero (0) 2007-05-04 11:48
This killing is the truth and I don't see the reason why some people here seem to refuse to accept it. TE should be open to more than just flowery pictures. imo the note is useful - but provoking? It's simply the opinion of its author and if there's any provocation in talking about how your dear food is produced, how can some people (here) still eat meat?
to jf dion: J'aime bien ton point de vue mais je trouve qu'il manque un peut de contraste dans ta photo. La seule chose qui à mon avis est un peut problématique, c'est le thème de ta photo. Moi, je n'ai rien contre, mais quelque gens n'aiment pas la vue des animaux morts.
Mooshe (16) 2007-05-09 8:05
Superbe photo... J'aime bien aussi la legende et je crois que t'as pas tord. Sinon pour le photo je trouve que le plan aurrais pus etre un tout petit peut plus large afin de voir les oreilles et les pattes en entier.
jontevanessen (0) 2007-05-14 4:04
A great photo, i don't see the problem here. Obviously you didn't put it up here to provoke or shock viewers. It's just a beautiful photo, and i totally agree with LoQuiero.
Sanderson-Brown (6) 2007-05-14 4:07
There is something unreal about the photo, something about it that doesnt make sense, when you look at it and think, aww thats a cute rabbit, and then realize that it must be dead, i think it is a powerful image that got exactly the reaction that was being looked for.
I have a rabbit at home like this one, but i dont think of the image as being disturbing one bit..thats just my view on it..
doelli (50) 2007-05-21 13:32
This photo keeps coming up again and again on the first page of TE. I always look again at the comments left for it since the last time I saw it.
And now I feel I should add my point of view, too.
I agree with all of you who think we can learn something from this photo as well as from all the others on TE.
We all need to eat, many of us eat meat, even if it is not from a rabbit, but we do. To do so, we need people who have the ability to kill what we want to eat, and that's how it looks like, like it or not. And I can tell you, on German TV you can see other pictures about suffering animals before they are killed to be our food.
Remembering such films on TV, comparing those images with this particular photo, I can say that I like it, because it has some beauty in it. It shows us a dead creature, but it looks like a "clean kill" to me, without any unnecessary suffering for the rabbit, it looks so calm...
The background was mentioned as a disturbance by some of you... I don't agree on this fact, because I think that because of the colors and all the rabbit stands out enough. And by the way, if it is a typical building for that region, why not showing it? In my imagination it fits together with traditional rabbit hunts and all.
Catching the drops of blood just before falling down is technically very well done, I think.
And for last: yes it is difficult to use a smiley to "judge" on this photo, but even if I didn't like the theme, I do have an oppinion about how this photo is done.
I hope I got my point clear and I'm looking forward to seeing this photo again on the entrance-page and read new critiques...
rinoacq (145) 2007-06-15 3:12
...ci vuole coraggio...
la natura dell'uomo...
la natura sulla natura...
è anche questa,
...it wants courage to us...the nature of the man... the nature on the nature... is also this, why to be shocked itself?
jinju (14265) 2007-06-27 3:29
Ahh so this is the famous rabbit picture. Somehow I imagined something better.
Gratuitous is maybe the best word for this. A photo that says nothing. A photo without context. It could very well be of animal abuse but it could very well not be. So what do I get from this? Nothing. Except the gratuitous use of blood to, well, I dont know what.
Now, getting past that, and looking at this from a technical side, its almost as bad. Underexposed, flat, no contrast, terrible framing. But really, that doesnt matter when we have the problem mentioned in the first paragraph.
mphotographies (1976) 2007-06-28 5:47
Not so appealing image, yet it speaks volumes of critiques of their depression as well as our own humanity. The image shared here my not appeal to some viewers but this is the reality, I would look away this image since I’m an animal lover myself. I have seen more cruel images than this, man does heinous acts imaginable!
I share the compassion and respect with others here, many have converted themselves into a vegetarian, becoming a resistance to animal killing. This has attracted a public awareness on animal cruelty. I may not like the glimpse into what is done to farmed animal’s life but there is a less cruel way to handle such issue. A permissible or acceptable way rather than strangling, a violent blow or any means being gored to death.
A very explicit and brutal imagery of reality! No matter what angle its PG-13!
JDFreeSoul (72) 2007-07-03 15:53
Félicitation tu as probablement la photo la plus populaire sur Trekearth! ;)
J'avais vus cette photo il y a quelques mois de ca et maintenant je vois des commentaires de petites natures et ignorants alors je dois écrire quelque chose ici.
Je crois pas que cette photo est mauvaise ou dégoutante... c'est une photo réelle de la réalité, je crois pas que le veau qu'ils mangent pour souper n'a pas saigné... comme tu dis, ils n'ont qu'a devenir végétarien s'ils peuvent pas voir ce genre de scène.
briclo (58) 2007-07-13 5:17
Je trouve que l'image manque totalement de respect pour l'animal, mort ou vivant. Je ne mange plus d'animal marchant sur 4 pattes depuis maintenant 10 ans. J'essaie de me contenter d'animaux a deux pattes...et surtout, je ne mange pas de foie gras, l'oie ou le canard étant atrocement maltraité. Malgré le fait que ces pauvres betes n'ont aucune chance car nous, les humains, surconsommons et jettons plus que nous consommons, je crois néanmoins qu'une sensibilisation au traitements que subissent ces betes est tres bienvenue. Mais savez vous, qu'en ce qui concerne la nourriture, nous sommmes avons régressés plus loin pires l'homme de néandertal? Alors a ce sujet, cela prendra bien plus qu'une photo pour les sensibiliser. J'espere que votre repas fut bon.
matt_harris_42 (151) 2007-08-05 9:36
I'm a vegetarian, so I quite like it when people are offended by this sort of thing. Of course it's a horrific picture, but there are too many people who eat meat and try to ignore where it comes from. Squeamishness from meat-eaters is, in my opinion, slightly hypocritical and pathetic. I have less respect for these sort of people than I do for more sensible people who acknowledge where their food is from. So well done for posting this picture, and reminding people where food is from. It is educational, and is composed well, and therefore is totally suitable for TrekEarth.
ikthus (20) 2007-08-16 15:41
Thank you for posting this photograph as well as your note. C'est un photo formidable.
jang (1300) 2007-08-26 9:39
제일 인상에 남았던 토끼의 사진이네요
수많은 토끼들의 사진을 보았지만 이게 제일 인상깊은 토끼.
토끼 입에서 흘러내리는건 피? 나의 조카의 질문입니다.
happypoppeye (4819) 2007-08-29 15:30
At this point, a smiley for being the most talked about photo on the site, and for being a permanent fixture on the intro page...
Wandering_Dan (3449) 2007-08-29 16:14
Technically this is an excellent shot. Composition and clarity are spot-on,a nd the attention is immediately and fimrly drawn to the topic at hand. (A minor quibble: I might have opted to back up a fraction so that the whole of the paws and ears are in the frame.)
As for the subject itself, which has, it seems, stirred so much controversy here: The function of art is to express an opinion or comment about the world; it is not to say how pretty it is. If you want to eat meat, there are certain inevitable consequences to doing so. (I am not a vegetarian, though I don't eat rabbit.) In western countries, especially in the US, almost all of us never see any of the preliminaries attendant on our dinner until it arrives on the table, or, a worst, until it appears, wrapped in plastic, on the supermarket shelf. This photograph demands of us that we think about those preliminaries. If that makes some of us uncomfortable, that is evidence that it has done its job.
That makes it art. Full marks.
evolution_air (9) 2007-09-03 11:21
Au premier abord, je me suis dit: qu'est-ce que cette horreur vient faire chez TE, et comment çà peut-être noté aussi grâcieusement. Puis j'ai lu la note et là, tout prend un sens.
De quoi alimenter une belle polémique, et çà à bien marché...
Belle matière à réflexion sur notre façon de vivre actuelle, félicitations.
At first appearence, I told myself: what that horror which come on TE, and how that can be such gracefully graded? And I've read the note, and then, all have a sense. Subject to sustain a great controversy, and It has worked well...
Great subject of reflection concerning our actual way of life, congratulations.
Matthew-Watt (5934) 2007-09-06 19:56
What a peculiar, divided debate you have generated here! My opinion is that it is unfortunate that this animal has died, and I may not agree with the purpose of its death entirely, but it shows us a fact of life. This happens. I am sure if I went for a drive and took photos of Kangaroos that have been hit by traffic near where I live and posted them on Trek Earth I would be swamped with the same sort of responses. I like this photo for no other reason than it displays to many viewers what is usually a ‘behind the scenes’ undertaking. To put this in perspective, in Australia rabbits were wrongly introduced into the landscape for hunting purposes. It has now displaced many unique marsupial species and has been termed the ‘desert makers’ as it eats all greenery. The Myxomatosis disease has thankfully reduced the numbers but they remain a hated pest and are trapped, shot and poisoned by the thousands. I know it was human error, and that not that of the bunny which was responsible for this problem, but I hope it stands to reason. On a photographic basis, I think the image may have benefited from some more light, but I like, dare I say it, the position of rabbit and the blood. The eye is the most ominous detail. Life can be cruel, but what we need most is acceptance of the realisation; meat will remain a large component of our diets and animals will live and die. Sad Reality.
shayes (499) 2007-09-26 4:01
Your photograph has certainly caused a stir, but I appreciate the note that accompanies it. It seems to be quite hypocritical that some people have placed rude comments saying that this photo is "disgusting" and "horrible", yet they happily eat their steaks at night. How lovely that they live in the blissful ignorance that the hamburger they're eating grew on a tree.
SandROM (19) 2007-10-02 1:58
I guessed! You propagand idea of vegetarianism
chrisemt74 (47) 2007-10-03 5:25
Very different photo. I was drawn to it, almost immediately. I think it's very, very good.
miroslavjelinek (42) 2007-10-09 3:19
great capture. Next time use flash and place rabit on clean background. Try to adjust levels. that could help too.
kwazireal (181) 2007-10-09 9:38
This image reports accurately about a mundane event of everyday life, the killing of creatures to be used a food, human sustinence. It is a starkly effective vision of what is usually unseen by the average person: slaughter...such as takes place millions of times each and every day around the earth when cattle, goats, sheep, hogs, deer, rabbits, and foul are butchered for their meat; for our meat to eat.
The capture, here, was provocative and technically well produced. It fulfills, to an ultimate degree, the objective of Trek Earth...learning about the world through photography. We may not always like to learn what is being taught.
luke28410 (0) 2007-10-09 9:49
disgusting disgusting disgusting
GosiaKrakowska (36) 2007-10-14 11:22
Striking.I do not understand the disgust? The picture is certainly beautiful in its quasi-cruelty. Congratulations for catching the moment.
magiqa (1292) 2007-10-21 0:12
Peuvre lapin.... j'ai mangé viande de lapin plusieurs fois dans mon enfant. (Parce que les lapins etait trop beaucoup....) mais de temps en temps je pense que je ne veux manger viande en la future. Bien sure c'est necessaire, mais cruel. Mais aussi pour les poissons la mort est cruel. Beaucoup de peuple pense que si la viande est blanc, c'est ok. Mais par example, des animaux sauvage etaient libre dés la morte. (Correctez-moi, sil vous plait.,,,jai oublié boucoup de francaise...)
En Suede l'on ne mange la viande de lapin mais la viande de son "cousin", le lievre....
Une photo tres bien et tres vrai and cruel...
asaad (107) 2007-10-23 11:55
again again again....
why is this rabbit criticized? its daily life, most of you eat meat, so beef, chicken, rabbit...etc. must be killed (whatever the way)before cooking
because you don't see it, it doesn't mean it didn't happen, supermarket or the butcher its the same but the different is the the meat is served.
congratulation for this shot, well done..
Lee30 (78) 2007-11-01 23:31
It's as sad as the fate of billions of lambs, calves, chickens, etc...that get slaughtered to feed the mankind all over the world!
Peppe (66) 2007-11-18 17:59
I simply cannot see anything that would justify posting the photo.
If it was a killed Canadian seal, I would understand the message. But dead rabbit ?
What did the author want to say? Perhaps nothing, only a provocative act.
vicana (74) 2007-11-19 11:26
Excellent photo. Unfortunately I don't understand French (I guess thats the language you have written in), but still, some photographs don't need words to convey their meaning. This is a very strong photo! And I don't agree with people who say posting this photo is not right. This site is about learning about world thru photography, and may be one can learn much more form this photo than from any other photo. Great work :)
diverjohn (544) 2007-11-27 5:17
I think it should be posted on either TE or TL.
I was worried when I posted the image of a dead salmon on TN, but were you prepared for the number of views and negative comments?
tom_imbard (159) 2007-12-07 12:17
This is just worth being seen here. To all people shocked by this one, would you see it for real, you'd be disgusted but wouldn't shake arms and legs around saying "this is not the world we want to see!'. You'd accept it.
And just because someone's takes the right to bring it to you THROUGH photography, you think it gives you the right to complain?
Well, stop looking at dead trees pictures in winter, then. Would you be shocked by a picture of a tree being cut? Why all people have a problem with death? In the beginning of the century, Weegee took pictures of dead bodies in NY streets. He is now considered one of the biggest photographer ever, although he was severely critiqued in the begining. So who knows, maybe time will give you reason, opti.
I have taken the time to read all your notes, and I think it's hight time to stop the huge controversy... which is nothing but "a hurricane in a glass of water".
Let's not be hypocrits. TE is not about living in wonderland, and if that's what you want, start by throwing away your TV at first.
TE is about sharing photos and opinions going along them. Do you consider the world as it's geographical and topographic limits? Well, i do think the world is much more than mountains, snow, trees, bees and flowers. World is acts, thoughts, opinions. And far from me to say that we don't have to judge : some acts, thoughts and opinions are mean. But i think it's really not the case here.
It's a rabbit. It's dead, but not for nothing. And i'm not going to be falsly offended by it : every summer, i must be killing hundreds of dozens of ants, without even realizing it.
OOhhh? is this controverse so vivid because a rabbit is supposed to be a kind animal and it has fur?
If so, stop killing spiders to the foot, and accept this as the world you HAVE to share about.
And if you don't caution, just don't give point, and don't write comments. Just pass your way. There's no big deal.
Opti, thank you.
flatwin (2181) 2008-01-22 2:15
certes une photo choquante mais très bien réalisée et très nette, en ce qui concerne les propos négatif de cette photo je ne comprend pas, les grands peintres ont bien réalisés des scènes de chasse alors où est le problème, la note explicative le montre il faut manger !
jimmj63 (2315) 2008-01-28 7:18
MA CHE BELLA PAGLIACCIATA! sembra che ci sia un macabro divertimento nel pubblicare le critiche a questa fotografia. Ogni giorno ne vengono postate a decine e le critiche, anche qualificate non mancano mai, ma almeno una volta alla settimana questa foto ritorna agli onori della ribalta. Anche se la mia critica è in italiano e la redazione presumo si guardi bene dal tradurla la faccio lo stesso. A me la foto non piace, il macabro gratuito è facile da fare: è come un fuoco di paglia che subito fa parlare di se ma che presto si dimentica, non comunica alcun messaggio ma, soprattutto non racconta nessuna terra attraverso le immagini, quello che Trekearth vuol fare. La sola cosa che mi dispiace e che si aggiunga anche la mia critica a decine di altre, avrei voluto stare zitto, ma quata volta è davvero troppo.
saluti a tutti
Adrique (609) 2008-02-14 4:21
You have chosen a great photo - ideal to start a discussion!
Unfortunately I do not understand a word what´s written in your note; according to the viewers´ posts it seem to be an integral part of the photo. So I don´t get half of the photo´s meaning.
POV is clever, causing sympathy for the animal.
Since it the photo shows nothing that´d put it in wider context of exploring Earth, I cannot give you more than 1 point, even though the image itself is very good.
I was thinking about rotating the image 90° CCW to see the blood drops in horizontal position, which could increase the controversy and shock-effect of the image even more (not to mention to post it on TrekNature!).
Hednaskald (149) 2008-02-14 10:01
I like this shot very much. It has a cruel reality to it. Those who don't like it probably just don't understand it, or simply refuse to accept all its implications as they are. This picture has nothing to do with dark humor, it has to do with a clear reality.
I eat meat, I am aware that we kill animals to eat them, and even though I like animals very much (sometimes more than human beings) I definitely think that there is absolutely nothing wrong about killing them to feed ourselves. Is there something wrong about a wolf killing a rabbit? Absolutely not. Why should there be anything wrong about a human killing a rabbit then?
This picture simply exposes the hard reality of it, reality that was forgotten by too many people who take all the meat they eat for granted. Those people are now reacting not to the picture, but to the fact that this picture shows them their ignorance of the hard ways of nature, puts their basic ignorance in full light. That is what they are reacting to.
clmoncada (59) 2008-02-24 17:16
Excelente foto. creo que tiene un mensaje muy fuerte con respecto a la muerte. La sangre que corre de la boca del conejo habla por si sola, creo q es el centro de atracción de esta obra y sobre todo expresa esta fase de la vida que es la muerte (muy súblime)
Creo que esta es una verdadera obra de arte por que genera polémica y diversos puntos de opinión.
Una ves más te felicito por tu obra de arte
Oldtree (2457) 2008-03-10 2:39
In my opinion this photo should be removed from TE. Even worth, from time to time it is shone on the front page. This is just bad taste!
As many other people has stated, this photo misses respect for the death.
Some people here state they are amused (mildly) or mention humour... I see the photo and feel sad for the creature (even though I'm no vagetarion and like to eat meat. And I'm aware that creature have to be killed.). I really can't understand how people can see this picture and than start to discuss how amused they are about the reactions here. I call this decadent.
Remove this shot from the side!
panik75 (102) 2008-03-14 3:50
A great photo captured at the right moment just before the blood leaves the animal to hit the ground.
If you have more you should post them.
As for me becoming vegeterian just becuase of this picture I think noy :) Nice try though...
camabs (68) 2008-03-31 5:36
This picture sure stirs up peoples' minds. That's cool, I like that. Any picture that causes this amount of discussion is a great picture. Technicalities are unimportant once a picture 'touches' people. Congrats on a great shot!
Just wonder whether all the negative commenters eat meat every know and then... ;)
H2OKOT (180) 2008-04-07 13:57
I am not sure if you can describe this picture in the category of beauty or ugliness....for sure it evokes some emotions and if thats its purpose, than you have succeeded.
ThomasL (419) 2008-04-23 9:15
I don't think this photo completely reflects the goal of TE. This shot doesn't learn us a lot of Levis, Canada. Maybe it should've been posted on TL. Nevertheless, your picture has generated a lot of (good and bad) critique until now. Not necessarily because it IS good, but more because it's shocking for some people, a point of discussion for others and a beautiful shot for a few members more.
I don't know what you intended to show us with this photo... That rabbits are killed every day so that we can eat them? That you kill rabbits yourself before eating them? It's quite normal, no? Every 'animal' needs to survive, and therefor has to kill other species. So I don't know what's so special about this scene. Yes it's a bit shocking, but it's just real life, nothing special...
So, what to say about the subject of this picture? I don't think it's good or bad on its own, but I don't think it should be on TE. And I just don't get the intention of it.
Now on the photo itself: I personally think it's not good at all. It's just a snapshot, taken at the right moment. That's why I won't give it points. The background is nothing special, the ears and legs of the rabbit were cut of (bad framing), the image isn't that sharp, there isn't much contrast, ... I would say only the timing was good, with the blood trails hanging out of its nose, even if I don't like the scene a lot :)
I decided to critique this shot because I - like every other member - see this picture on the frontpage a few times a week. I thought I'd just 'say my word', like the others did. I hope you see I'm not trying to 'destruct' this photo, I'm just saying my opinion about it, that's all ;)
As I almost always make a workshop for photos which IMHO need improvement, I made one for this shot too. Tell me what you think about it...
Greetings from Belgium,
PS: Excuse me for my poor english :)
Sne011 (3084) 2008-05-11 4:08
This is terrible and it's not art of any kind...
inan (28) 2008-05-11 10:28
I love this picture. It reflects the photographer's skills: To be at the right place, at the right time. Yes, I'm jealous.
It certainly fits TE since it is something done by earth living creatures, to an earth living creature.
Back to the photograph... It is brutal and hits our brutality to our faces. Pay attention to eyes of the rabbit. They are kind of bloody, animal may be still alive, which means it is under torture.
This picture reminded me a quotation from Voltaire, who is a vegetarian: If animals were able to talk, we could have never slaughtered them.
Again, JF Dion was at the right place at the right time; and apperantly didn't hesitate to hit the trigger. I don't understand French, but he didn't even need to explain anything. Photograph talks for itself already..
Very well done my friend. I'm looking forward to your photographs.
steliosk (4802) 2008-05-13 8:08
Firstly I didn't know how to comment in this one, but after a point this was quite easy.
You're describing a fact we like to ignore, not to get mess with blood, not hurting the animal, but hunting and killing for surviving is necessary and imagine this little fella here cooked.. yummy isn't it? After that point we don't even care how did we capture and killed the animal and all that I described above. We simply enjoy the pleasure of eating it. At least that what I want to think, and not just stare a brutal picture of torturing an animal, which action would have no use in life.
Now what feelings does this picture create? what are we ready to see when we click over a picture, what we would like to see, and what do we "people" accept seeing.
Many questions, and many answers.
As a daily life picture this one takes place among other things that happen in our life and we chose to close our eyes to them.
So you have to decide what kind of photos do you want to project and choose what kind of feelings do you want to create to your viewers. That part is for you,
now as for the picture, the technical part is not the best you could get to describe this, its not actually taken in a butcher shop where more elements and different backgrounds could compose something better, instead of cold white colours and no feeling, except the fact captured. Sure thing, its not an attractive picture, but that exact point is quite attractive. plus, the many comments you got made this picture successful.
as for me? I don't like that picture, but that doesn't mean that I don't understand the meaning of it.
I'm afraid your note isn't useful for somebody who doesn't speak French like me :)
I usually give two points for each effort, but I wont rate this one because like I said, I don't like it even if I can live with it.
ruisc_pt (10892) 2008-05-17 7:44
Já estou farto de ver e ler sobre este post.to the WEBMASTERS OF THE TREKEARTH site.
that's enough. stop... end. ..period.
jmdaoudal (82) 2008-05-24 7:43
Stop T E rabbit running front page !
Khattakphoto (686) 2008-06-23 23:42
Very powerful image JF. It shows the cruelty of human beings as well as the need for survival, at the expense of this rabbit.
greek (7594) 2008-06-24 3:50
i like the message, stop the cruelity towards animals
fariischee (584) 2008-07-31 21:32
hey... i have seen this picture on the front page a few times.. and well. it is really interesting how a simple picture can cause so much ... fo watever that is ....
in short.. the blood the eyes and the simple look on the hare.. just spaek for it slef..
in my own words: how killed roger rabbit
SCidER (388) 2008-08-12 13:22
nice detailed shot.. but unfortunate subject...
michelloupis (0) 2008-08-31 14:56
Since I have a right to an opinion, I believe this photo to be disgusting. And it is not only disgusting, but truly uninteresting. A dead rabbit dripping blood... Nevertheless, it started a curious discussion. The points this photo already received only reveals the general sadistic inclination of society seen everyday and everywhere from the newspapers to the TV. The dark side attracts, fascinates and sells. As someone said, "Who the hell would like to be raped by a French officer? Get me at once a German officer from the SS!" That's hard, but that's the way it roll's. And I don't think this photo should be banned from TE. For the sake of free expression it should stay, either people like it or not! Note that I'm not moralizing. This is only my opinion concerning this particular picture and nothing more. If I would have seen it in some brochure against animal cruelty, I would have judged it in the very same way.
gganiaa (30) 2008-09-09 13:32
sad but true
Balrog (102) 2008-10-10 15:22
jimkilgallon (0) 2008-10-10 21:46
Why does this image keep appearing on the front of the TE page.. it is so yesterday this image... I would prefer to see a Lion slaying a Zebra for his evening meal all the time than this ugly furry thing dripping blood... not the artist fault that TE seems to bring this image up the time, you'd think something like this would be better on the front page if we are going to see blood http://www.trekearth.com/viewphotos.php?l=3&p=914834
vmukherjee (612) 2008-11-13 5:59
One of the most moving shots I have ever seen.
luighi (5297) 2008-11-18 5:12
Estoy arto de que salga esta critica en la pagina principal , imagino que habra mas criticas interesantes no?
man33m (61) 2008-12-22 3:36
Sorry but i don't like this photo. And i don't know why are too many people paying attention to it.
Adrian_S (1179) 2009-02-01 3:40
"Les fleurs du mal". That's all I have to say. Beauty expressed through grotesque. Oustanding.
Disparador (164) 2009-02-13 1:29
I don´t understand where is the beauty of this photo!
lucasgalodoido (21714) 2009-02-16 15:56
apesar de ser meio chocanet assim a primeira vista, não deixa de ser uma bela fotografia, e é isso que interessa, ela atingiu seu papel aqui. Gostei!
Parabéns e Abraço
acorrer (59) 2009-02-21 9:51
Même si je ne suis pas d'accord avec ta reflexion par rapport à la consomation de viande. Je trouve que ta photo est très bonne. Et comme le but de ce site est de montrer des bonnes photos et de les commenter, alors Bravo !! Très original !!
freakywindow (233) 2009-04-21 7:55
Horrific but good shot
AGolovkov (61) 2009-04-21 8:45
Karyn674 (55) 2009-04-25 0:20
Seems like this picture shocked a lot of people.
I'm also an amimal lover, however, still a meat eater, a great part of 'modern' civilisation have lost the survival skills, due to comodities...packaged and frozen meat. So we never have to kill ourselved....yet we still eat meat and this photo brigns a harsh reality to those who stock their freezer and never give much thought on the process or the suffering of the animal itself, since we're not seeing it!
Imo worse then this is definately waste of food!
penny12 (132) 2009-05-07 8:18
Well, that photo is really controversial. Originally, i didn't think to leave a comment, but after reading all these critiques, I think that i MUST say something myself. I aggree with david, some other member who left a comment. Indeed, the world is not perfect! Death is something we have to accept, want it or not! However, it really is a shocking photo.
And it makes me think a lot!
I read your comment and i found it quite shocking, too. I think that you wanted to provoke and you managed to do this!
I cannot give you points for the shot because i don't want to award such actions! However, I admire your courage to post such a photo!
satyakki (658) 2009-05-17 12:02
This is againsty TE policy of "Learning about the world through photography." What is this all about ? Note is not universally understood. And what is TE management doing in not avoiding this meaningless murderous pic. TE does not allow shots of flowers because they do not communicate anything about the world. What does this communicate? That there is anough blood in the world or still there is less and we need more ??????????????????????????????????
Francois64 (16) 2012-12-02 5:33
Horrible! Un sujet qui ne saurait en aucun cas faire une belle photo. Nul !
mcmtanyel (19701) 2013-10-21 12:31
"Ne köy ne kasaba" (neither village nor town), as we say in Turkish. The English saying, I believe, is "neither fish nor fowl." The photo is very ordinary, and has a few minor flaws. However, the subject is very controversial. The photo does not do justice to the highly controversial subject, that is why it gets no points from me.
Composition has minor flaws: The framing is too tight, the tip of the foot and the tip of the ear have not quite fit the frame. Let's think of it this way: If one could imagine this photo without the blood dripping out of the poor creature's mouth, would one think it is a good photo of a rabbit? No, it would be a sloppy photo of a hanging rabbit's head. Why should the addition of gory detail make the photo any better?
- Copyright: jf dion (opti) (296)
- Genre: Places
- Medium: Color
- Date Taken: 2004-09-00
- Categories: Decisive Moment
- Camera: Fuji FinePix 3800
- Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
- Theme(s): Likely and unlikely duets... (Part I), zwierzêta, Disheartening, animals used, A Considerable Number of Views!, Controversial [view contributor(s)]
- Date Submitted: 2004-10-10 8:19
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