Photographer’s Note
A photo with a story, and not so optimistic but I'd like to tell it nonetheless : I met Birol’s wife (let’s call her Gönül, a common name for women of that age there) at Sulukule. She did not allow me to take her in photos (forbidden by the men of her family she told me) but wanted me to photography the tatoo on her chest…
She is a woman in her early 30s with hair died in blond and both her forearms have plenty of scars strangely neatly alligned, apparently self-inflicted wounds made the same day like sorts of wierd decorations, this shows a lot of suffering in her life. She has 2 young children, about 4 and 2 years old : could not ask how Birol could possibly have fathered the kids as he is serving a jail sentence far away, in çanakkale, with 5 more years to go…
(Other women too in that neighbourhood have their husbands in jail and some sell souvenirs made in glass beads, something that is done in other areas in Turkish jails as well...)
She is a neighbour of the family who (being evicted like all the others), had chosen to move that day ; she too will have to leave within one year and the whole Roma population will eventually be scattered in various parts of Istanbul (NB : it is interesting to note that this was the first Roma settlement in the world : they had settled there since almost 1000 years during the Byzantine era and before the Turks moved in Constantinople).
WS : colour version and
another photo from the house removal showing much sorrow.
... As I am not disciplined enough to make a proper "travelogue" with photos in neat succession but as I still have a lot to tell about my experience there, I'll type a text telling about my impressions as it could be useful to other travellers :
First, I entered into a small café in poor condition - the place where only tea is served and where only men are spending long hours : all, very friendly and respectful, happy to talk to a foreigner and offering quantities of free teas for the pleasure of the conversation and of being taken in photos ;
Then, I spotted some children and tried to take decent photos of them in the ruins and with the ancient walls in the BG ;
A nearby family was busy with house removal and it was not easy to understand who was related with who, many neighbours, friends, "akrabas" = family were around there too.
But in the same time, when I was taking photos of mostly young children, I was challenged by older ones (not more than 12 or 13 years old, though), 2 of them hit me repeatedly on my back precisely when I was pressing the shutter, to test me, see my reaction (even, collecting stones probably meant to be thrown at me = I sensed that the situation could become dangerous) : first, I laughed but they definitely wanted to upset me, carried on the same way so in the end, and in the presence of a passing man, I said that it was a shame to treat foreign visitors that way, that in Turkey in general everyone was welcoming and that they'd better leave me alone or I'd deal with them and give them some severe "ceza" (correction) - ... well, this was said very loud but not too seriously - I did not think of it any more as the man chased the eldest of the 2 boys...
But about 10 minutes later, in front of the family busy with transporting furniture with whom I was talking, the same man reappeared with one of the screaming offending boy and the way he beated him in public was absolutely disgusting - an adult (and not the father) throwing the child on the ground and hitting him repeatedly with his foot : I succeeded in reasoning him but not before the child was badly beaten and humiliated : that's how young adults grow angry IMO...
Apart from that unpleasant experience, nothing dangerous happened to me ; still, one has to be weary of thieves (leaving the area, I suddenly became aware of a youngster who was following me, moved backward and he was doing the same, then entered in a shop and talked a bit to the shop keeper : he was still waiting for me, so I stayed longer inside another shop and was helped by every one)...
Saw drug trafficking happening in front of me in the open but pretended not to see it (and this, I dared not photographying although the dealers did not seem very threatening to me) ;
Saw also other kinds of misery, - but also, plenty of children enjoying the holidays and other women seeming happy with their lives and ready to joke with me, even sing for me !...
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rigoletto
(25978) 2008-08-23 10:14
So, you were in Istanbul in August. Or, are you still in Istanbul and not calling me? OK, i'll not hit your back like the boys did, nor throw you onto the ground like the man did the offender :)
I read the note in a single glimpse and my memeoirs of that horrible day in Sulukule came back to my mind. Of course, according to your story, i think that, being a tourist and a lady should have created more tension in the neighbourhood. Curiosity + dislike for foreigners. This should be what you faced there. I really appreciate your courage (yeah, balls, actually). I just tried once going in there with naive photographic ideals: i would smile, and be kind to them, and they would give excellent portraits. But no, it was a disaster, ending up with having my money robbed by 15 year old burglars. I was lucky not to have so much money with me, and of course I and my camera are still sound and safe. But again? Hell! No!
Besides its cultural values and the history it represents, the place unfortunately turned into an open jail in time. Those streets do nothing better than adding problematic people to the society (maybe fine Roman musicians...). Education? Pedagogy? Social injustice? Yeah, standard problems of all pushed aside closed societies. The goverment shall take care of them, and then they are happy and we are happy.
But going back again into that jungle? I leave the place to "photojournalist" friends like you, that was an adventure, and being that close to hell is too much for me.
For the photo: It is a very interesting result that you got. Not the face, but the tattoo. A tattoo on the heart, that is it. A valuable documentary for sure, beyond any criticism. And those scars on the arms... They do it with razors, mainly in states of extacy, like listening to a favourite musician, or getting drugs. And they do it many times in a life time. It is quite frequently seen in the young adults of Istanbul's back streets, yet it is the first time i hear it to exist on a young lady's arms.
I was impressed with the "expected" story of your visit, and I guess, your Istanbul story would be incomplete without visiting Sulukule. I can guess your happiness upon that adventure.
Hugs,
Deniz
Polonaise
(5629) 2008-08-23 13:12
Dear,…
I might sound very boring in my repetitiveness, but I say it nevertheless…
You are alone on the top of TE' story tellers and your contribution to make this site worth visit - cannot be overestimated…
Your photo collection from the places you visit - is a treasure in its own rights…
It looks like the IXUS in your very own hands - is opening our eyes to the wonderful world of Sesame…
A room full of shiny gems… Priceless jewels…
Your confidentiality with the people you take the picture of, can be a bright sample of a routine even for myself (as I am not the shyest person in the world - I may admit)…
You are proving Catherine, that a passion, honesty and a whole load of incredible intelligence - never be out of style…
That the 'normal', down to earth photography style - is still the most precious and the most challenging of ANY photographic style known…
Your notes …
That's the legends in their own league - as well…
The brisk, juicy story telling is as much your very own as your precious illustrations to the stories…
They are ALWAYS connected… They are always playing unison concerto with the written tale…
It's been an honor to know you, Katarzyna…
Try not to take rests for too long… Please…
Yours…
george
SteveH
(3859) 2008-08-23 23:55
Hi Cath, dramatic shot, especially when combined with your note (even if the small font strains my old eyes), explaining something of the environment of this woman. cheers, Steve
MarcT
(20983) 2008-08-24 0:31
Salut Catherine,
Je t'ai pourtant déjà dit de ne pas faire des photos dans des coupes-gorges! Non mais ;o((, tu prends des risques pour le plaisir, on dirait!
Bon WE
Marc
Glint
(3029) 2008-08-24 1:10
Dear Caherine,
I am not so much on TE these days and so have some catching up to do. In particular, I need to catch up with your travels and experiences. Interesting photo here showing not just a tattoo but somehow an expression of this woman's vulnerability. Your lengthy notes I read with both interest and dismay. As always I admire your courage, tenacity and sheer fascination with your chosen subjects. Your curiosity about the world and especially its people enables you to give us so much of interest.
best regards
Bev
holmertz
(9328) 2008-08-24 3:23
Hello Catherine,
A superb documentary shot, very very different from the usual TE stuff. Since I don't know you, I don't have to worry about you, but some of the stories you tell are quite frightening. I've had stones thrown at me by kids, and even adults once or twice, in poor areas in Turkey and elsewhere, but that was long ago when I still sometimes ventured into dangerous and problematic areas. Now I no longer find it worth the risks.
Take care!
Gert
lestans
(15408) 2008-08-24 7:42
Ciao Cath!
una storia drammatica.
E la foto è molto intensa, mi colpisce il fatto che la donna si spogli per mostrare il tatuaggio ma non lasci fotografare il suo volto.
Nella composizione, trovo bello il rapporto fra la rosa nella T-shirt e il nome tatuato.
TFS! Ciao
Livia
tehanu_f
(6874) 2008-08-25 1:52
after rigo and polonaise, I don't have anything left to say. all I want to say is that this is a great shot (in terms of cadrage) and a story. congrats my dear friend. )))
KateinDenmark
(1089) 2008-09-01 1:14
Really fascinating photo. I think it is quite interesting that you could photograph her chest, but not her face. Her hand also seems quite tough and used. Very good choice of putting it in B&W. Excellent post.
Kate
Photo Information
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Copyright: Catherine M D (noborders)
(14197) - Genre: People
- Medium: Black & White
- Date Taken: 2008-08-00
- Categories: Daily Life, Decisive Moment
- Camera: Canon IXUS 850 IS
- Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
- Theme(s): discovering Roma people in Turkey [view contributor(s)]
- Date Submitted: 2008-08-23 9:07
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