Photographer’s Note
I am interrupting my Croatia travelogue for my 600th TE post. It was also my third TE anniversary on 4th June while I was away, so I’m treating this as a double celebration by posting an image of the same location as my first TE post.
Saltburn pier is quite famous in our area and even has its own TE theme. (see left) My first post was taken on a bright winters day from the end of the pier during a very low tide. Information about the pier can be found on this earlier post. This shot, as you see, was taken underneath the pier at the other end, and at night. The pier is lit up from dusk to mid-night every night so I think it makes an attractive subject for night shots.
Around the summer solstice it doesn’t stay dark for long, and I suspect the “blue hour” is actually all night this far north. I’d been wanting to go out after dark around this time, and was waiting until Rob could/would come with me, mainly for security reasons. (lone woman/expensive camera!) This shot was taken a week after the solstice, just before 11pm about an hour after sunset, and, as you see, there was still light in the sky. Latitude is 54.57. There are plenty of places further north still where it will be even lighter and even full light for 24 hours at this time of year.
In the WS is a shot looking towards the direction in which the sun set.
Very little PP needed. In the RAW converter all I did was warm the white balance a bit and reduce exposure compensation for the bright pier lights. In CS3 only sharpened edges, converted to 8bit and jpeg.
ISO100, FL24mm, mirror lock-up,
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robertosalguero
(110) 2008-07-17 1:34
Congratulations Kath on this milestone. 600 good quality pictures and continuing strong. This is an excellent composition. The exposure and colours are perfect to create an interesting effect. Good sharpness and centering of this image. Thanks Kath.
Roberto
zeynepe
(9362) 2008-07-17 1:40
Hi Kath,
I wish many and more 600th photos as you did before:)
This is spectacular image !!!
Both technically and artistically Perfect!!!
Congrats,
Zeynep
Muse
(31059) 2008-07-17 1:43
Hello Kath,
All my congratulations for this double celebration! A funny idea that of reposter the first photo after all this past, it shows well that you have a lot to progress:-) A very attractive photo and beautiful colors. The pov and the centring are very well studied and give a lot of depth. Very good management of the light.
A very successful graphic compo.
I wish you some more of these very beautiful compo that you always realize.
Best regards
Denise
MikiM
(1916) 2008-07-17 1:46
HI Kath,
Congratulation! 600 is amazing nunber. Under three years - amazing performence especially in this quality!
Nice to compare the forst and the current picture. It was a long way:)))
Have a nice 4th year and go for the 700!!
Cheers,
Miklós
snunney
(35522) 2008-07-17 1:47
Kath,
Congratulations all round. You present us with a fine composition to celebrate with. An unusual point of view underneath the pier which results in a pleasing abstract image with all those repeating elements. Good clarity and well managed exposure.
danasam
(1057) 2008-07-17 1:49
Hi Kath, an outstanding photo, the lighting caused by the long exposure is perfect. unique POV. well done.
Sam.
tedesse
(13226) 2008-07-17 1:52
Hello!
Congratulations on your 600 photos.
Interesting view,beautiful perspective,nice colours and good light.
Greetings
Tadeusz
besnard
(31114) 2008-07-17 1:56
Bonjoiur Kath
Tous mes compliments pour cette 600ème, qui espérons-le, sera suivie de beaucoup d'autres. C'est très graphique et bien réalisé.
Merci pour le partage et bonne journée.
Nicole
jurek1951
(26162) 2008-07-17 1:58
Hi Kath,
Very beautiful composition and sharp colours.Excellent perspective,well framed and good quality too,
Georg
Gerrit
(36313) 2008-07-17 2:12
Hi Kath,
an original place to take a picture and a very graphical result.
Congratulations with your new milestone. Your productivity is impressive and the quality very consequent.
Regards, Gerrit
Tue
(25608) 2008-07-17 2:19
Hi Kath,
First of all, congratulations on your 600th photo and your third TE-anniversary, both are great milestones. It's a great photo to celebrate this. Not only because it's from the same place as your first photo, what I like very much, but also because it shows the construction of the pier so well in a great and well handled light. Especially the post and the diagonals totally in the foreground are very good. The dark blue sky is a beautiful background, you took very well advantage of the lovely light nights we can enjoy this far north in summertimes. :-) Thanks for sharing!
Regards,
Lars
Maged
(1518) 2008-07-17 2:28
Hello Kath
Amazing shot ,high quality image + perfect colors , details, lighting.
Congratulations
Best Regards
Maged
noborders
(14201) 2008-07-17 2:39
Hi Kath, having posted 2 tentative landscapes these last days, I thought to visit your gallery to get some more inspiration and good examples - your last ones are brilliant but ah ! this one is really special, the light is splendid and the sea has magic reflects.
Congratulation for this one and for your 599 previous photos, please keep posting !
Best wishes,
Cath.
dvlazar
(6488) 2008-07-17 2:46
Wow - what an interesting composition! I think it works great - i like the pole splitting in the image in 2. I think the lighting is unique and makes it look to be more processed than you've said - it looks quite surreal!
nice work.
Dave
PixelTerror
(86861) 2008-07-17 2:51
Hi Kath,
Congratulations for this double milestone !
It's a nice idea to put this one in // with your very first image so that we can see how far you have come forward in terms of picture quality, of course your HW came a huuuuge step forward, but so did your skills in both image composition and PP. And referring to one of your recent comments I wish I could meet that special english speaking person some day ;-)
Kind Regards,
Jean-Yves
cbrman
(19051) 2008-07-17 3:15
Hello Kath,
600 post !! Just the double of me ! Félicitations pour ce nombre de photographie et pour l'ensemble de ta galerie. Ici, le cadrage serré est vraiment bien vu et s'imposait. Les couleurs métaliques sont parfaites.
Bravo !
Dominique
andante
(7092) 2008-07-17 3:29
WOW!!! Great shot! Love the symmtry, the deep saturated colors and specially the strong graphical composition. The long exposure treatment is a feast to the eyes. TFS.
Enrique
mesutilgim
(37324) 2008-07-17 4:20
Hi dear Kath,
Congratulations to your 600th ! This is really a celebrational capture with very good light management and great graphism.
TFS and best regards
MESUT ILGIM
carper
(65742) 2008-07-17 4:22
congratiolation Kath with your 600 th,
a fantastic one that is something I can say, good perspective, good balance and fantastic quality, I like it a lot, have a nice day.
gr. jaap
delkoo
(34810) 2008-07-17 5:50
hi kath
congratulations for your milestone of 600 photos posted on TE.
it's always a real pleasure to discover your new photos and to admire your perfect technique, as you done on this one by a cleverly framing and a daring composition.
cheers
didier
jimkilgallon
(0) 2008-07-17 5:52
Hello Heather
600th post, heres to another 600 I say. What a capture, simply compelling with smooth blue waters and the lighting just shows the pier in a 3D way. It is a perfect composition.... very well done.
Regards
Jim
dta
(6189) 2008-07-17 5:59
Hello Kath,
Congratulations for your 600th . This is really a great picture : a perfect realisation for a marvellous shot .
Bravo
Denis
coco
(28146) 2008-07-17 6:34
Hi Kath and congratulations.
Congratulations for the 600th post, for the 4th anniversary and for this photo.
Simply an excellent work and an excellent night shot.
Well done.
Dyerco
(9310) 2008-07-17 6:51
Hi Kath
Congratulations on your 600th post and three year anniversary. I like this shot a lot with the long exposure the water gets a quiet soft look to it. Having a bit of light in the sky has provided just enough blue to compliment the yellow of the lights. Very well done.
Phil
crckt
(7100) 2008-07-17 7:29
Hi Kath,
CONGRATULATIONS! for both of the feats. It is incredible that you have 600 shots worth posting, whereas some of us barely can come up with a 100. It has been a fantastic experience for me to go through your gallery, admire your shots and also learn from you. Thanks for everything. Going back to this shot, WOW! incredible POV. Beautiful shot, great quality.
Regards,
Shaeri
xuaxo
(5843) 2008-07-17 8:12
Very nice photo of a famous English pier.
Congratulations for your more than 1000 (?) beautiful photos, including workshops.
F.
Floydian
(30970) 2008-07-17 8:24
Dear Kath,
600 is a lot, i think i never will reach that number. I need my breaks now and then and another important fact...i don't have 600 good pictures to share with.
You are dedicated to this site and that shows in all the warm comments you've got on this one. Your contribution to this community in how you see the world is very high because in almost every picture you place extra shots in the ws, only to show a bit more in what you saw in just a single shot. Not forgetting your excellent notes, they really tell a story....thanks for that.
Here number 600 looks beautiful in light and symmetry. Exposure is spot on...despite the fact it's taken with a Nikon :P
Take care Kath, Henk
Cricri
(43790) 2008-07-17 10:52
Félicitations Kath pour cette 600éme images, beaucoup de progrets depuis la premiére..
un cadrage bien pensé, graphisme et perspective le tout a l'heure bleu, que du bon, bravo
Best regard
cricri
Photo65Net
(43096) 2008-07-17 11:11
Kath,
First of all congrats for this miileston you reached !
A superb picture here, with magnificent colors, superb mood and amaziong graphics... Very good job !
It adds a great one in your beautiful gallery.
Regards, and I'm waiting for your (at least) next 600 :o) !
JB.
Wandering_Dan
(3297) 2008-07-17 11:24
Hi, Kath -
Congrats on #600! (When you get to 666, sell. ;-) )
There is a sci-fi quality to this photo (I've been watching too many Star Trek reruns lately). The quality of the light is really lovely, and the even division of the verticals actually works here, partly because the horizontal is not even. Very nice composition all around!
Best,
Dan
goodwill
(4033) 2008-07-17 12:12
If there is any word, for this shot it is....awesome.
Creativity.......at its best
Composition......superb
Mangement of light and shades.....Top Class.
The fish shaped foreground is asking for more.........more shots.
congrats, Kath....for your 600th upload.
Best Regards,
Rajeev
Royaldevon
(5944) 2008-07-17 12:22
Hello Kath,
First, CONGRATULATIONS, CONGRATULATIONS! A double greeting for a double celebration!
Second, I wish I could give you double points! I thought the posting in the gallery was exceptional with its intricate, geometric shapes, coupled with with golden tones and inky blue sky, but when I saw the shot in the w/s, I was bowled over! This shot has such a magic about it! The composition, the colours, the atmoshere ...! Just wonderful!
Kind regards,
Bev :-)
UlfE
(9188) 2008-07-17 12:26
Hi Kath,
Congratulations, 600th photos is a lot. You have chosen a marvelous picture. Very artistic and a ittle bit different from your usual style. TFS and have a nice evening!
Cheers,
Ulf
stego
(22482) 2008-07-17 12:45
Hi Kath,
Congratulations for this remarkable milestone. 600...
Exactly the double of me, on the same day, like me you chose a post related to your first in TE. What a series of coincidences! I wonder what meaning I would find in this is I was superstitious.
A "techno junkie" like there are many out there, would probably think that the main difference between the first post and this one is the camera you used. I guess that your stupendous new toy makes some things much easier and allows others nearly impossible with your prior cameras, but the technology is just a small part of the whole story.
I like how you used the lines and shapes of the bridge to make a very nice graphic arrangement. The light, is remarkably well managed, with a good balance between the amazing after dusk luminosity and the lamps. Then there are the colours (those blues!) the sharpness on the bridge, the wonderful "flou" effect on the water that makes is so "smooth". A very attractive image indeed!
Regards, José.
gilou530
(35710) 2008-07-17 12:47
hello kath
my congratulations for this 600e of a gallery very full, this bridge taken at the blue hour is very well tallied with a large clearness, it is a real pleasure of looking at and to comment on posts and I make now a little more effort to write in English even if it is not then continuous good in this way for my greater pleasure
friendships
gilbert
Stepan
(27175) 2008-07-17 13:41
Not so usual to discover that kind of compo in your gallery, not so usual to have a 600 posts gallery too. Especially with the quality you have everytime. And the experiences you try... Always a pleasure, often a suprise like here...
Excellent.
Stéphane
danyy
(69499) 2008-07-17 14:40
Félicitations pour ce 600th post Kath, une participation sur ce site qui ne passe inaperçue, ni par le nombre, ni par al qualité de tes photos.
Une vue superbe, symétrique et graphique, précise dans la capture des lumières et de la mise au point.
Une heure bleue agréable à la rétinne comme au capteur.
Amitié.
Daniel.
rigoletto
(26846) 2008-07-17 15:07
Hi Kath,
Congratulations for the 600th.
There are 400 woods to step on in order to reach the thousandth wood on the pier. :P
Interesting result with those 30 sec.s. I wouldn't guess that a pier colud look like a spaceship under those conditions.
May you live happily ever after in TE :))
Cheers,
Deniz
gneufeld
(15235) 2008-07-17 18:39
Hi Kath,
Congratulations and what a shot to celebrate with. The symmetry, details, and colors are absolutely stunning. Well done and TFS. Gerald
bostankorkulugu
(33984) 2008-07-17 21:18
this is just fab!... the perspective is unbelievable pulling me in -despite the pole in the middle- and that sharpness, wow... makes feel like i can touch anything there... thanks for being here with us kath... all the best:)...
axiotea
(16305) 2008-07-17 21:27
Hello Kath
First of all, congratulations for your 600th post d:)
Light and exposure are great and gave fantastic texture and color tonalities! Was a good idea to go underneath the pier which offers a good graphical impact and you found a perfect pov inducing a strong perspective effect. Love the golden tones as well and contrast.
It is interesting to look at your 1st TE image, and the complementary photo which could have been a main post!
Cheers
Marilyn
siolaw
(25834) 2008-07-17 23:37
Hi Kath,
Thanks for posting those 600 pictures, I discovered some nice places, specially in England, thanks to your posts!
Here, an unusual shot from you, but a style I love! Blue hour and perfect symmetry in the same picture! The 30s expo did agreat job in capturing rich color tones and natural looking textures.
Good job!
Laurent
Graal
(58786) 2008-07-18 0:14
Hi Kath,
congratulations on Your 600th post in TE! Fine symetry here and interesting geometrical fragments of construction. Nice perspective also. Good idea and work. I like it.
Gr., Aleksander
riclopes
(33135) 2008-07-18 4:16
Wow, 2 new posts and...600! Of course that you are much more active than me - I'm making a tremendous effort to reach the 400...It's a magnificent photo and it's fun to compare it with your first post, which actually, is not bad at all - but we can se how much you improved here. Love the strengh of this central pole beating in my face and breaking the depth of the perspective - that's the big original thing here. Beautiful symetry, nice graphism, wondeful dusk tones in the background. The WS is a lovely surprising painting as well. Congratulations and keep up the good work, Kath.
ricardo
robiuk
(10763) 2008-07-18 5:18
Lovely shot Kath, even with this central supportive
column being so close to your lens. But here it works
great as th ewhole shot has a great graphical dimension,
and the colour contrast between blues and yellows did its
job.
Congrats on your 600th shot!
Robi
fabio_ts
(13674) 2008-07-18 6:12
600!!!! wow!!!
How many tides this pier have seen from the 1st post... :o)
a wonderful picture to celebrate this event, ...now I'm waiting for 600 more :o)
have a nice weekend,
Fabio.
:o) soon
baba_flies
(8115) 2008-07-18 7:30
Hello Kath! You should be celebrating on the pier with a glass of champagne not standing in the cold water with your tripod :) This is fantastic, and I really find this smooth water and how you have "calmed" them down makes this picture fascinating to me, and there is this cold side too, standing under the bridge is not a friendly side but than again the light makes it warmer and that you have not chosen complete darkness but this famous blue-hour, something that I have learned here but I am not right there yet ... but if I see this, I mean, I have to go out right now and try, and this is the purpose, leading others out, letting them take part, learn. Excellent! Enjoy your weekend, Barbara.
Emile
(20151) 2008-07-18 15:17
Hola Kath.
Congratulation for your 600 shots in TE, hope that you will continue posting many more, you are one of these special person from whom we are learning with your excellent and high quality pictures and critiques.
It's interesting to compare your first shot with this one, not because the old one isn't good but for the changes we see in many ways.
Your WS is also a great shot. Also congratulation with your new camera, hope that Henk will change one day to Nikon. lol.
Wish you a beautiful weekend.
Cheers.
cobbydale
(1924) 2008-07-18 16:29
An excellent shot Kath, the exposure is really well managed, looks like one of those HDR shots. The colours are great too as is the symmetrical composition.
cheers
Leon
Rosa
(4147) 2008-07-18 23:07
Bonjour Kath,
Toutes mes félicitations pour ce 600 eme post et cette double célébration ! Une bonne idée que de reposter ta première photo, elle montre bien que tu as beaucoup progresser.
Tu nous offre une photo très attrayante avec de belles couleurs symétrique.
Le POV et le centrage sont très bien étudiés et donnent beaucoup de profondeur a ton image.
Un compo graphique très réussi.
Amitiés,
Rosa.
skippy007
(7355) 2008-07-19 2:51
Congratulations Kath on your double header. I like your first post but this one shows your artistic skills more not only in colour but also in composition. The pole down the centre works well & high lites the repetitive pattern, excellent colour & clarity.
Regards
Santo
macondo
(13273) 2008-07-19 3:15
Hi Kath.
Glad I found this and can congratulate you on this milestone 600th!
Great long exposure shot to mark it, too.
The colour is amazing, and the clarity astounding. You chose a very telling point of view for this one. The central pole only enhances the symmetry. I don't usually like the 'milky' water of long exposures, but the effect here is quite ethereal. All told, a magnificent shot.
Regards,
Andrew
JCG
(25753) 2008-07-19 4:04
Hi Kath,
600 photographs, that starts to count !!! All my congratulations for your constancy on the site and your marvellous work, it is always Once more you show us your talent here. This pier which was many times photographed is marvelously development, I like much framing on this whole of pillars. Symmetry is perfect. The management of the blue hour is superb, it is fairy-like. Thank you and cheer Kath.
With all my friendships and has very good WE,
Jean-Charles
rodgerg
(25079) 2008-07-19 4:49
Hello Kath,
CONGRATULATIONS for this double celebration.
A very good and very orginal POV which give an interesting effect. The use of light is perfect and the colors are very nice.
Go for the 700th...
Have a good week end,
Roger
jean11-3
(2799) 2008-07-19 11:12
Hello Kath and Congratulations on making it to 600!
The graphical quality is wonderful in this shot of the pier.
An excellent idea to return to this place.
The colours are lovely,the blue sky of the night are a good backdrop.
The shot in the w/shop is wonderful too, certainly good enough for a main post.
Tfs, regards Jean.
nels
(2455) 2008-07-19 11:58
hi kath congratulations on your 600th, like the deep saturated colours, it almost looks as if it is built with brass instead of wood, here's looking forward to your nezt 600
adrian.
jusninasirun
(10213) 2008-07-19 20:04
Hello Kath. Excellent view in good contrast and saturation. I like the texture and geometry of this pier against the saturated blue sky. Thanks for sharing and best regards. Jusni
LamCam
(3603) 2008-07-20 3:28
Hello Kath, A superb image, getting maximum impact from the metal struts, artificial light and strong perspective. great clarity and depth of colour.
I must add my congratulations to the ever growing list - great work!
Very best wishes....Maggie
mark_mk
(246) 2008-07-20 5:58
Hi Kath,
wow, 600 posts! Congratulations for that an keep a lot more coming!
Here the blue hour adds a lot to your composition, without the blue hour it wouldn`t half been half as good. I really like the view from underneath and as usual the quality you present us is perfect. A nice POV and these geometric lines of the pier look veryx interesting. Very nice!
Take care
Mark
Jonas_Schmitt
(3074) 2008-07-20 9:19
Hello Kath!
A fantastic and really creative idea, that you present on this wonderful photo.
I see your exposure time was 30 seconds, it seems like it was the exactly right choice, because the colors look great.
I also like the feeling of depth a lot and you chose an excellent point of view. Well done!
Best regards,
Jonas
cunejo200
(7243) 2008-07-20 12:02
Hello Kath,
Graphism and colors are very strong attractive in this slow shutter photography. COngratulations on the milestone. I must say you have defined your style of photography over the years. My best wishes. Danilo
goldyrs
(136) 2008-07-20 12:15
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S! my dear friend Kath! I hope to see many many more 100s and 1000s from you!
An excellent shot, very luminous,if I may!
very well done!
Goldy
Angshu
(34141) 2008-07-20 20:44
Hello Kath
600! Simply great, I should be completing 400 in some weeks time. And what more interesting way to mark it from where you started your journey! A magical image, especially with the flowing mist at the bottom. Exposure is superb, I have to try RAW soon to understand the potential. Congratulations once again!
Best Regards
Angshu
PS : I thought after seeing one of your critiques to Stephane, that you might try something new for this occasion, may be a tilt? ;-)
izmirli
(3287) 2008-07-20 22:56
merhaba dear kath
congratulations for your 600th post.
excellent interesting picture and composition.well done.
best regards.
gürkan akçakır.
*tomorrow.
dareco
(17104) 2008-07-21 4:04
Congratulations!! Your first post was very nice but this one is breathtakingly gorgeous!! Fantastic lighting, colors, and framing. I love it! TFS and have a super week!
derek3755
(2341) 2008-07-21 9:10
Hi Kath
congratulations on your 600th upload, looks like i have some way to go yet to achieve that.
Quite a spectacular image, love the POV & composition, and the light has been managed perfectly.
Regards
Derek
fayeulle
(26547) 2008-07-21 22:31
Hi Kath
Congratulations on your 600th ! This is a very graphical picture and the light is simply fantastic here
Have a nice day
JP
josepmarin
(34131) 2008-07-22 1:26
Hello Kath,
Congratulations for your 600th post!! It is an interesting and a bit romantic detail that you present a new photo of the same place of your first post here.
Have you noticed how it has improved the quality of our photos during our participation in TE? Thanks to the advices, suggestions and helps of many friends in the site we have managed to improve our photographic skill.
Your celebration photo is magnificent, has a special light and a great perspective, with an excellent geometry.
Beautiful work.
Best wishes,
Josep
PS: the cow that one saw in my last photo, is my English Cocker Spaniel, is called Dru and now he is in my intro.
Didi
(36516) 2008-07-26 17:15
Hi Kath
Well it is a great 600th post.
Well done with the exposure lights management; you don't makes this kind of pictures enough.
I like very much the perspective.
Very interesting mixing between natural and artificial lights in the WS.
Cheers.
Sanderson-Brown
(1697) 2008-07-30 5:47
Hi Kath,
excellent choice of positioning. The framing and pov is perfect. Smooth but sharp with great detail!
Tfs
regards
Paul
abulafia
(4802) 2008-08-02 4:18
Very nice Kath
Great details, and a very unusual choise to shoot through the pier.
But it works very well.
Harry
marietom
(32084) 2008-08-02 4:47
hello Kath,
Wonderful graphism, wonderful colors, I like a lot these picture, bravo !
Bonne soirée
Marie
Waylim
(11159) 2008-08-06 13:00
Kath,
That's a lot of photos shared and all wonderful. So is this one, though the pole kind of split the photo in half, but the shapes of the rest make it okay. the clarity of this structure is just incredible in this light. Great job, and love the colors, with the gold constrasting the dark blue sky beautifully. Congratulations Kath on this milestone.
Way
ruisc_pt
(6209) 2008-08-17 6:31
In fact Kath. I'm wondering if it's possible to achieve a better and wonderfull photo from the image you shoot. Your technique and eyes are really superb.
Congratulations for your 600# and all the others too.
TFS indeed
R
foozi
(4735) 2009-02-25 0:36
Hi Kath,
really beautiful. Well seen inits graphical and design.
Well thought and excellent rendered in a very dramatic expression of dense and saturated sky.
Excellent perspective with lighting become very effective.
Superbs one.
Regards,
Foozi
Photo Information
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Copyright: Kath Featherstone (feather)
(50168) - Genre: Places
- Medium: Color
- Date Taken: 2008-06-28
- Categories: Nature, Architecture
- Camera: Nikon D300, Nikkor 24-120mm AF-S, VR, RAW
- Exposure: f/11, 30 seconds
- Details: Tripod: Yes
- Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
- Theme(s): Saltburn Pier, More favorites 2 [view contributor(s)]
- Date Submitted: 2008-07-17 1:29
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