Photographer’s Note
Sevilla, the devote.
Sevilla is a town where traces of the reconquista and a burning faith are everywhere. As the powerful catholic church organization needs their own eyes to monitor what could be happening at the frontline of the culture shock, Seville hosts many convents.
Some of them are open to public visits or at least they pretend so.
You'll always tend to be fascinated with what you cannot understand. The idea of spending your time living as a recluse is something that is miles away from my limited understanding.
This is why I won't miss any chance of witnessing it for real : in that respect, I have to to say the asian monks and religious people have always opened their arms wide to my curiosity. I am grateful for the fact I have often spent more time in monasteries or religious schools than I thought I would be allowed. It probably shows a proof of a genuine compassionate feel from the monks and more open mindness than I would have suspected, as a resulat it has helped me overcome my primary negative anticlerical thoughts.
The convent I shot the photo from is located in the northern Macarena part of Sevilla, it's likely to open to your request if you can find the small bell on the side on its huge entry doors. We were confirmed inside that the place was open for a visit. A tall mestiza sister beaconing in the patio ordered us to walk up the stairways, where we could meet someone and pay a small fee to see a 3 rooms museums. More interestingly, we could also catch through a wired window a glimpse of the convent's life, but I suppose it was more something of a negligence than a main attraction.
Although we showed very little interest to the morbid paintings (I don't know why christianty has a kick towards paintings of a guy, -christ, saint, bishop or whatever - tortured to blood or pierced with arrows or beheaded sometimes, painted in a gloomy light while other religions can enjoy flamboyant representations of their heroes.), we were greeted by one of the "sisters" who could really cheer up your mind only with her smile and the sound of her voice. This is the real mystery to me, how can someone be so close to what you need while her life is so reclused. I believe this what is called compassion or empathy maybe.. but aren't those similar.
While leaving the room, we asked her whether we could see other parts of the convent, the way nuns live and eventually shoot some photos. She replied it was of course possible, like myrequest sounded obvious. I started enjoying the moment.
Downstairs it was another story, the tall beacon-sister confirmed us we could photo "everything", providing it was taken from the (small) patio and we were not allowed to photo anyone. That is to say, th eonly points of interst were, if I remember well, two or three closed doors, one tall tree, a belfry with a bell, the stairs we had walked up and... that's it.
She also added with a smile that the community would be happy if we bought all sorts of jam conserves they were selling.
Smiles can be different. There are lots of smiles, they bear different values : some smiles are only in there for the photo, as fake as their owner, others like the previous nun's smile are compassionate.
I felt somehow cheated and deceived, this is not what I call opening the doors, hence I was in my mind entitled not to follow distorted rules. I broke the rules : this photo shouldn't be. I guestimated the framing slyly with my best smile, and furtively clicked while I was told not to photo people... I'm not even sorry.
Some people may smile with compassion whereas I only see in some others' selfpassion. I let you judge this smile. For me there is nothing compassionate, this smile is just social code from someone who is passionate about her own passion... the religion passion. She acted like she was organizing the agenda of an overbooked movie star : all of her body language spoke about dominance and the urge of not allowing a single bit of any freedom.
Some members may assume I am harsh against religion. Yes, particularly against certain clerks, particularly against one of the most hypocrite religion exerting in our countries.
To say it starightforwardly I miss Asian monks, I miss the genuine compassion they have often shown.
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oriolm
(1142) 2008-08-31 10:51
beautiful smile, and a great moment, the young and the old helping each other
xavshot
(62477) 2008-08-31 10:56
Bonsoir Luko
j'aime bien l'harmonie des couleurs dans cette image et l'opposition des deux visages : couleurs, jeunesse, sourire d'un côté et expression sévère de l'autre. Belle gestion de la lumière.
amicalement
Xavier
Porteplume
(3255) 2008-08-31 12:52
Bonjour Luko,
Yes! That's why we need a note. Because sometimes our eyes are too credule and let us believe there are "things" where in fact there is nothing... Or something else...
I would have framed a bit higher - [you know I keep too neat to make good photography, but it's just the way I'm! ;o)] - but I like the picture which you can't easily dessociate from the note = makes me remind of a previous photo I made in Otterlo of a piece of Art by Bruce Nauman - "The true artist helps the world by revealing mystic truths"
Amicalement - Viviane
horatiuTT
(4566) 2008-08-31 12:54
Hi Luko,
fantastic scene,the face expressions are so memorable,the light
is again beautiful and such great tones.Well done Pal
Horatiu
robiuk
(10763) 2008-08-31 13:42
Luko,
I suppose for many members it's going to be a hard job
to divide this photo from your note. I'm not even sure
if/how much/many people are willing to do both (both separate
them two and try to get it as a full monty).
Both the title and your lovely written personal note
keep forcing me to express my opinion on the matter
(your note), even though I keep resisting, thinking it
shouldn't be about critquing the note but the photo
itself. But how to separate them two? Is that possible?
The smiling 'sister' we see in the FG seems to be a
dominant one. The other one is not important - only as
a balance for the composition. Talking about the balance,
I like the gradula transition of light from well lit
robes of a giant-sister in front, over her older mate and
down towards the inside of the premises.
Who knows, maybe she wears a different smile for different
visitors... or maybe she just saw through you!
;-D
Robi
thea0211
(1355) 2008-08-31 15:30
so this is practically a/the long explanation to the fact that you "miss asia" (you've changed the note since i first read it ;o) ... i wish you've left it as it was ;o)
it's our world - this one - hypocrite (most of the times) - and yes, sometimes looks like "organizing the agenda of an overbooked movie star" ;o) - you're right
but probably asia misses you too, so - there is no need to be angry or upset - asia has patience and compassion - as you well know
i don't feel like going too deep in the 'dominance vs. compassion' issue which you illustrated here, nor in the meanings of this contrasty image itself ... no idea where i would finally land (... just trying to be non-judgemental to all parts involved) so i'll take the safe road and rather settle with the obvious.
take care luko,
dora
faubry
(32299) 2008-09-01 7:39
bonjour Luko, je ne veux pas entrer dans l echange epistolaire, je ne m attarde que sur la photo en elle meme. une superbe lumiere, la presence incontestee de la religieuse au [premier plan, son sourire, son importance corporale et derriere cette petite femme, qui nous parait insignifiante, mais en fait elle apparait comme la sagesse.
pour moi c est une tres belle image que j aprecie beaucoup
amities
francine
nicoz
(1963) 2008-09-02 10:43
Hi Luko,
J'ai déjà vu ces mélanges de tons dans un magasine AD ;-)
Avant le charisme triomphant de la religieuse au premier plan, c'est l'harmonie des tons qui m'a accroché.
Puis cette soeur qui semble être en pleine ascension, ecrasant presque son aînée qui semble être au bout de son calvaire.
Diablement bien fait ;-)
Nicolas
Curioso
(9119) 2008-09-02 11:02
Merci Luko pour ce commentaire. C'est un bon moment de reflexion et si je partageais une partie de ce point de vue il y a quelques années sans trop réfléchir, maintenant, je nuancerais... Ceci dit, il faudrait vivre cette visite pour juger.
Côté photo, c'est une vue marrante. Mais je préfère la Ginjinha :)
Iva_R
(1296) 2008-09-06 2:40
Entre la photo elle-même et l'histoire que tu déploies dans la note, il y a ainsi deux histoires... Sur la photo, magistralement construite et très intéressante, on est enclin à coller tout un tas de choses, selon nos propres idées ou représentations de ce qu'on imagine de la gent monacale. Mais voilà que la note démonte tout ça, et fait songer au vieux dicton: 'L'habit ne fait pas le moine' (ou la nonne)...
Iva
kensimage
(8541) 2008-09-19 0:38
An outstanding shot (or I mean, "furtive click"), Luko. The low POV (which is what you get when your camera is down by your hip...) is perfect to express the closer woman's desired dominance. Some people are desperate to feel they have some control, some authority, so they will create it where none needs to exist. Besides that, she probably thinks rules are good for people, they leave less space for the devil, so the more rules the better. The fast shutter speed is perfect for from-the-hip shooting, since stability can be tricky. Regards, Ken.
Photo Information
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Copyright: Luko G R (Luko)
(13894) - Genre: People
- Medium: Color
- Date Taken: 2008-08-10
- Categories: Daily Life
- Camera: Canon EOS 5D, Canon 24-105/4L IS
- Exposure: f/4.5, 1/800 seconds
- More Photo Info: view
- Photo Version: Original Version
- Date Submitted: 2008-08-31 9:18
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