As we went along the roads to and from Balea Lac we often met horses and wagons. I asked if we could stop for some photos as such equipages at least for me are not seen too often. Finally we not only had some shots of the horse and wagon but also some Gypsies - a large minority group in Romania.
In this photo we have the equipage with the gypsy family on the road: Father, son and in the back the mother (partly hidden in this version).
Also in this series: The Gypsy father. The shy Gypsy
History of the Gypsies
The Gypsy peoples originate from Sind region now in Pakistan. Their Rom language is close to the older forms of Indian languages. The three tribes of Rom, Sinti, and Kale probably left India after a succession of campaigns in Sind through the C11, initially spending time in Armenia and Persia, then moving into the Byzantine Empire after the Seljuk Turk attacks on Armenia. Within the Byzantine Empire they dispersed into the Balkans reaching Wallachia (1385) and Moldavia (1370) ahead of this area falling to the Ottoman Turks. Other groups also moved through India to Gujarat and south of Delhi. Gypsy populations can still be found along all these migration routes.
When entering west Europe they initially had letters of protection from the King of Hungary. This privileged situation did not last long as amazement at their way of life commonly led to hostilities. The Gypsy way of life still leads to hostilities from the people of their host nations. Europeans regard "private property" as sacrosanct, whereas gypsies do not have a word for "possess", which gives rise to two incompatible ways of life and a continual problem of gypsies being regarded as "thieves" from the European's view.
In each host nation gypsies appear to take on the religion, names and language of their hosts, but within the Rom they maintain their Rom language, names, music, customs and Indian looks. This tight community has meant that after some six hundred years there is still a large population of gypsies not integrated or assimilated with Romanians.
From the time of their arrival in Romania Gypsies were the slaves of the landowners, only to be emancipated in 1851. While in Romania some of the Gypsies took to speaking a version of Romanian called Bayesh which can be heard in some of the songs of Gypsy groups recorded in Hungary. Nowadays about 40% of the Gypsies still speak Romany and many can still be seen travelling in lines of carts along the roads of Romania. The majority live in the towns and villages, some fully integrated into villages, some in large ornate houses standing out from the Romanians, but others in small buildings on scraps of lands on the villages edges.
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Paolo (41222) 2007-07-13 1:26
Hi Jack, wonderufl double portrait, with hgih quality and amazing colours and a brilliant composition with the horse in the foreground.
the focus was perfect and at top level over all the subjects.
flory (4848) 2007-07-13 1:33
interesting moment captured,like them expression,joyful and how the horse is in the fg ..you see the both have these typical hats for this region??.. maybe,sometimes,give us problems,still they are a community with beautiful traditions,music,customs,right!
ps.those are Yenish,they have white skin
bertolucci (13358) 2007-07-13 2:00
Wow Jack, a TE meeting in Romania, great! And a very good picture of it. The close croppping works great here and I like the well caught expressions of the men. Btw: swapped your Nikon for a Oly 410? - one of the nicest compact dSLR on the market.
Have a fine weekend,
gilou530 (34) 2007-07-13 2:36
un portrait plein de naturel de ces tsiganes, les couleurs sont naturelles et la netteté au top, j'aime bien beau travail
wolf38 (31280) 2007-07-13 2:37
Hello Jack. The Gypsies. An own topic. One again and again sees impressing photos over this ethnical group. Also your photo belongs to these worth seeing pictures. It is interesting to study these faces. A beautiful photo. Best regards, Wolfgang.
anes_lc (14968) 2007-07-13 2:44
i'm sorry i didn't see this part also :(
but at least i have the chance to see good pictures :)
great shot.good framing.
cbrman (21645) 2007-07-13 3:21
La profondeur de champ est très bien gérée dans cette image ! Tout les protagonistes sont nets et ils ont tous une expression différentes ! Une belle scène de la vie quotidienne !
Bien vu !
jasmis (57824) 2007-07-13 5:05
Interesting and important photo. Detailed note included.
Thanks for sharing.
Iuli (838) 2007-07-13 6:43
A beautiful capture and a great note, Jack!
I like this tight framing.
A couple of things I want to point out:
If it weren't for the hats and for the brightly colored head-scarf and shirt of the mother, they could've easily passed for Romanians.
If I remember my history well, for centuries, except for some brief periods when a region or another was ruled by a compassionate ruler, most Romanians had also a status pretty close to slavery. There were also factors like ethnicity and religion that were involved in this story but the overwhelming principle that drove this was the greed and arrogance of the few versus the humble many.
teutza (10590) 2007-07-13 6:48
yes..this is a good one!good qualitty good close up of the horse!too bad you didn't get the chance to catch all his head. very interesting expresion of the 2 in the back!it was a real great experience meeting those 3:)
mortijo (12828) 2007-07-13 7:50
A nice one Jack, showing us a side of life that is almost non-existant in our part of the world. Are we happier? I dare doubt it.
dkmurphys (49338) 2007-07-13 14:04
poor horse....:(last days was a reportage on TV about the viollence of the gypsies applied to their horses and dogs....I hate them becouse of that!!!
Cricri (106327) 2007-07-13 14:33
magnifique netteté et couleurs, un bon cadrage serré avec la tête du cheval en gros plan, et les portraits heureux de ces Gypsy, belle realisation
have a nice weekend
Clementi (52514) 2007-07-13 21:59
ottimo ritratto doppio ,dalle espressioni mi sembrano felici .
ottima composizione con dei bei colori e ottima nitidezza.
PixelTerror (0) 2007-07-14 1:40
Nice illustration of this side of Romania, the impression is very lively and the close framing works well here. I see here and in the numerous WS you have a love affair with horses ;-))
I wish you a nice week end,
isabela_sor (47683) 2007-07-14 9:34
For those gypsies we were waiting you in Sibiu so long,because you all stopped there for taking many photos :))....OKKKKKKK!!!!!!This was YOUR revenge :)
Jokkking!I only regret that I wasn't there too.They have happy and so funny faces and expressions :)
belido (19934) 2007-07-15 5:11
great POV! The frame is full of nice elements such as the horse and the Gypsie guys. Colorful and attractive. Very gradeful image and good following note about their history. Well done!
Emile (20350) 2007-07-15 20:55
This is really an excellent shot, your composition with the men and wagon is very good, wonderful capture of the horse in the foreground. Colors and sharpness are very good.
Your point of view is perfect. Great note.
Sorry I missed this shot before.
Very well done. TFS.
- Copyright: Jack R Johanson (jrj) (34841)
- Genre: People
- Medium: Color
- Date Taken: 2007-07-08
- Categories: Daily Life, Transportation
- Camera: Olympus E-410, Olympus Zuiko ED 14-42mm
- Exposure: f/8, 1/200 seconds
- More Photo Info: view
- Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
- Travelogue: Romania
- Theme(s): ROMANIAN MEETING/Balea Lake [view contributor(s)]
- Date Submitted: 2007-07-13 0:44