Photographer’s Note
the harbor office
This is the strange neo classical harbor office I mentioned yesterday. It’s strange, because the soviet architecture was more industrial. I have seen an example like this in the Riga harbor, but there prefab steel panels were used for the fassades, not wood. These prefab panels have windows in rubbers like in busses, and it looks very different.
In essence, this was not very different from our way of doing, but the biggest difference was the lack of motivation, care. And because of central planning, things look ‘similar’ where ever you go. One good thing is that people became creative, they found ways around the inevitable greyness, and working with Latvians reminds me this every day. Creativeness is there strongest asset.
If a pixel is a pixel….
I also included two workshops.
This photo is not interesting, and I would like to ask you not to comment on the lack of color, composition etc., but about methods to get the photos sharp with the limitation of 200 Kb and 800 pix. I need to learn here, and I hope that others in the process can also learn. If one of you has a different technique, or refinements, please explain your experience. This is not about points to me, it’s about learning and sharing.
So I used three different techniques, all in Photoshop;
All photo had the normal series of handling; rotation, crop, adjustment of brightness etc.
I leave these details away.
- this photo is edited using the safe for web function. Often, by saving you have to use the compression factor 10 or even 9, going down to 150Kb, because the larger option is 205Kb. I had the same problem here, so the posted photo is 144 Kb. Of coarse, I can go back, resize just a little bit smaller and then save on a lower compression.
The other methods are described with the workshops.
A pixel is a pixel, as is also said in the forum, so with a width of 700 pix, there is so much detail you can get in this photo. The differences are small between the three, but the last method is better when the photo has more color.
To be continued hopefully . . . .
PS2;
rotate, crop, adjusted brightness and contrast, resizing, added the border, sharpening and finally added the text.
this is part of small serie about the Latvian coast, and how the fishing ‘industry’ evolved over a century;
the old man and the sea
lost pier
soviet planning
Engure harbor
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thor68
(5537) 2007-10-15 4:02
hi david, i do not find the photo/building so uninteresting, and the pov and dramatic sky are helpful for a start.
as i am not at my home-computer i cannot try my "usual method" for the preparation. i use photoshop cs3 and normally do the
crop and rotation first if necessary followed by "auto contrast". then i play around with "shadow/highlight"
to get a nice balance on the shadows and highlights. then i sometimes increase the contrast and the saturation -
values depending on the photo, no general values. then comes the frame and the resizing to the allowed 800 pixels.
after that i "sharpen" and "save for web" with the allowed 200kb.
hope this gives you a few ideas & best wishes, thor.
stiginthedump
(1823) 2007-10-16 5:51
You know what? I actually prefer the version you posted. I find the workshop versions too oversharpened.
Regarding my sharpenin methods, i only sharpen the image before it gets printed, different sizes mean different strenghts of sharpening. So i have the raw file, the 'altered' file, a file for a 16x20 print, and a file for trekearth.
When i finally save it fopr trekearth, i just save it as a jpef normally and lower the quaility rating to 8.
After resizing to 800x600 i play around with smart sharpen (with the lens blur setting) until i'm satisfied. Give it a go as it seems to save a lot of hassle in my opinion!
AdrianW
(2241) 2007-10-16 8:48
As has been mentioned, sharpening depends on the input image; every camera has a different default sharpness setting, and produces different sized images. Often the content of the image also determines the type/amount of sharpening required too.
IMO this one's slightly oversharpened; look at the haloes around the dark mast. It's also lacking in contrast, which makes you feel that it's not quite sharp enough, even when it might be.
The Brad method version is significantly oversharpened.
Of your versions I prefer your standard technique shown in the Workshop to this one.
Thorsten's workshop is a very good effort from the web version already posted; but unfortunately the original version he based it on was oversharpened, so his is too IMO.
I hope you like my workshop!
molla
(6883) 2007-10-18 0:31
Hej Davids!
kind of like this building in days of stainless, marbel and colored glass it's nice with a changes, It's more something out of a film.
You'v got a nice sky a very detailed structure on the building.
You understand what i trying to say! It's a very good one.
But on request even I did a Workshop on it.
By the way this post been one of the better i'v bewen reading It's really a higher school PS workshop
Cheers Anders
dlevy23
(2018) 2007-10-22 12:26
Hi David, I do like this photo, I prefer the sharpening workshop better, nicer contrast. The sky in that workshop makes the photo more dramatic.
Great job and good for putting all that time on posting all the different workshops.
Daniel
sagar
(2307) 2007-10-24 0:11
Hi David,
I dont know why you dont find this one interesting.I see a cute building amidst a very peaceful nature. Anyways, there a lot of WS versions of this.I'm not a master of technical aspects, rather I judge a shot by the aesthetic quality, and I see a pretty peaceful nature in front of my eyes and that satisfies me very much.
Regards,
Sagarneel.
Photo Information
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Copyright: David Moed (Davids)
(1034) - Genre: Places
- Medium: Color
- Date Taken: 2007-08-26
- Categories: Architecture, Ruins
- Camera: Canon A610, 7.3-29.2, Digital JPEG, (none)
- Exposure: f/4, 1/640 seconds
- Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
- Date Submitted: 2007-10-15 1:26
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