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Old 11-04-2008, 07:32 AM
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Wow Greg, you are probably an eminent psychologist, being able to read in people's mind and assuming such a general conclusion in the names of many members who simply don't like to see their work reproduce on other people websites or blogs, whatever the mediocrity of their shots.

If so Mr. Freud, why would they ask to the people who appropriates their work to take it out of their websites? Your reasoning is totally deconnected from any possible sense.

Believe me Greg, you are the one who have no clue about these things, and contrary to your pretention, good photographers and pros don't like to see their images anywhere else then on their own gallery or in the hand of people who have paid for it.

Also, I didn't say that people were switching for Flickr for this locking feature alone??? I've just mentionned that for more and more members who migrate on other photo websites, TE doesn't have the edge any longer, with many logging problems recently and with a kind of gestapo who decide to retrieve images according to their humour and frustrating many.

Not sure from which planet you come from, but there is surely a lot of flowers and pink glasses where you live. If you don't feel frustrated seeing other people stealing your photos, then it's probably because they don't have any value to your own eyes.

I'm trying positively to see your point Greg and the reason of your intervention. Was it to gain some distinction on this forum?
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: TE best images stolen...

I have..
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: TE best images stolen...

To make the situation a bit harder for the image-thieves, I suggest using a system I found on a Slovak photo-sharing community website www.ephoto.sk - check the photogallery section http://ephoto.sk/uzivatelska-sekcia/foto-galeria/.
You get small thumbnails, after clicking on it you get a medium-size version with photo details. After clicking on it, you get a large-image version, but you are you are allowed to do nothing, but closing the large-view.
Just like every protection made by human, I am sure this can be broken as well, but it takes a least a bit more work than just right-click and Save image as...

Btw, what kind of protection uses flickr.com? I could download every file I wanted, even in original resolutions...
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Complicating the download as a pretended way of securing

Hi,

Come on, let's face it, there is no way to prevent theft of photos that are made public in Internet. If you are able to see them in your display, it's because the file is already somewhere in your hard disk, so it is just a matter of being more or less smart to be able to retrieve it.

All those twisted acrobatics that are used to supposedly avoiding the theft tend to complicate the browsing, are prone to problems/incompatibilities when browsers are updated because they use less standard and frequently less secure software code, etc.

Suggesting the adoption of such methods is like pretending that the house is more secure because we always lock the door, despite we leave the key on the flower pot beside it.

Regards.
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:46 PM
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Hi Adrian,

I shouldn't be the one who answer you about Flickr, because I'm not using this site. But I know that it's up to the member to decide if he wants to block his photos or not. So as a matter of fact, you can drag and drop many images, but usually, the best ones are locked.

Also, this website features the possibility to download all your large files (the originals), as a way to back them up as another layer of protection (let say your hard disk is damaged or your DVD's burn in fire...... Isn't it the ultimate feature! So when you are traveling, you can still receive request to purchase your photos and be able to ship them, without bringing all your files with or having someone to send it for you, back home.

This website is clearly oriented to fullfill the "real-life" needs of photographers and I can understand why it's so popular.

Cheers!

André
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:15 PM
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Hi André,

I starting dabbling with Flickr during the TE server drought. It is true that you can disable the download feature but the right click feature is still readily available for the unethical.

Cheers!

Bob G.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:30 PM
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> Why would a top-popular website like Flickr would go the extra mile to offer their members this option, if it wouldn't be helpful?

Just because Flickr does something doesn't mean it's the right decision for TE. Flickr allow you to upload unlimited pet snaps, video and porn too. Do you want to see TE filled with any of that? My point is TE is not Flickr. They're different sites, with different goals.

An analogy would be Apple decided to make the batteries in all iPods non-removable, and the iPod is the best selling product, so that too must be a great idea?

Integrated batteries are not a good idea, but some stupid manufacturers followed them down that road anyway because they couldn't separate the good ideas from the bad.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:45 PM
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Strange reaction from someone who write on his first intro line on TE:

"I'm also on Flickr if anyone's interested".

Look Adrian, maybe you have heard the word benchmarking before in your life... That means taking the best from competitors and make it yours. With your kind of logic, it's impossible to have any discussion whatsoever, and there's so many people here like you... Who have mentioned we should include porn here (there's already the old pervert Polonaise who try its best to do so...). By throwing anything as an argument, no wonder every debates turn in circle.

Listen, you think it's not a good thing to add a feature about locking photos. You think that a website like Flickr which receives thousands more photos on a daily basis is putting this system in place, just to have more problems managing their site. Than let us have the honor to close this never ending debate.

TE is perfect like it is, so why bother trying to improve it, why questioning ourselves about new ways to make it safer.

I just wonder why the Spanish guy who have wrote "TE is the largest free image bank on the net" didn't rather mentionned Flickr or another site instead.

Simply because it's the most vulnerable. But hey, let's keep it that way.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:00 PM
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My point is that as soon as Google indexes the images your "protection" doesn't work. I'd hazard that most image thieves come via Google anyway.

About the only thing your "protection" would achieve is killing off the Workshops, which are one of most unique and useful features of this site.

As for why I'm on Flickr. It's simply that views count. If no-one knows who you are, then no-one's ever going to commission you or buy your work. Advertising = money.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:01 PM
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Oh my God!!!.... LOL!!!

And why is it someone like you Adrian who have posted 4 photos since 2005 who take part into this debate. How could you possibly feel concerned when you have written 13 critiques in 2008!!!

You have your opinion and we live in a democracy, so you can write anything you want and I will respect you for that, but obviously, you surely don't live the same frustration of faithful follower who post here on a regular basis.

Come on Adrian, 4 photos posted on TE since almost 4 years... Yeah! You can talk about TE flaws all the way you want... You simply don't deal with it like people who are visiting and participating on TE on a regular basis... LOL!
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