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Old 12-01-2004, 11:37 PM
Midnight_sun Midnight_sun is offline
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What a super shot (by michael nichols), straight to my favs : ) Also the 'fifi' shot, bottom left is very good, with no cropped head, lol.
Thanks for the link Sohrab.

I hear what you are saying Frida (regarding Mr Parr), at first I thought they were bad but as a group they work very well together, as he draws out the stereotype a little more with every shot, and no shot in his collection is superfluous.
I think the skill he has is getting the viewer in touch with the period and perception of mass tourism, and turning it around to show it through his eyes. It is rather like the way a screen writer may have a character who is a 'bad/corrupt cop', a character every one instantly recognises from countless films and so with only a few moments on the screen, the character is established in a way that would take much longer than say, a restaurant owner, or a photographer for example.
One quality a great actor has is to quickly get the audience in touch with the character and one way to do this is to reflect stereotypes of their character as best they can.
I like the extra dimension Parr gives his shots, so a 'bad' one becomes great. Thatís talent.


**Aside, Iím going to use a dark room for the first time tomorrow as the university have one with free chemicals! Maybe Iíll try a 'lith' print once I get the hang of it...
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Old 12-02-2004, 12:20 AM
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haha you're right

you know mike nichols has got some fantastic shots from the gabon coast.
he had accompanied a scietist ( in parts along the way since he was hit by malaria) called michael fay on an expedition across the african continent.
here's a link if you want to read the expedition about the expedition with a few photographs
to be honest i havent gone through this link. i just searched it out for you. this expedition was featured in 3 parts( 3 issues of national geographic) and also shwon on a documentary, so thats where i came to know about it. i hope the link is good enough.

anyway so gabon coast is an amazing beach you have hippos in the sea, elephants , girraffes, and other animals ( i think lions too) on the beach. he's got some superb photographs frmo there

a hippo in the sea
hey i forgot that he has some stuff on this expedition on hi own site too :)
he recently went back to gabon coast with his family for about a year or so( im not sure about the exact duration) and he's got some amazing photographs from there too.

if you want to see some more magical photographs from the animal kingdom
you should look for books by a photographer called david doubilet. he's my favourite underwater photographer
i havent yet found a link to his galleries, but you do find a couple of his photographs on the net.

you have some of his photographs in the gallery below. there are some other good photographs as well and you can download them as wallpapers
galler y

he's used the flash in quite a few as well :)

david's symphony

here you can look at his small gallery on national geographic. he's used the flash in some of his photographs :) i love wildlife and at one time i wanted to be a wildlife photographer :)


p.s. hey!! i downloaded the "australian sealions" as a wall paper from national geographic. if you want it i'll send it to you
write to me if you want tit
take care
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Old 12-02-2004, 12:57 AM
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I was looking at some of the photographers links you gave Sohrab, when Darren mentioned a wildlife Nature photographer, i was thinking about Frans Lanting perhaps, the link gets you to his flash tips page.

And oh yeah, for sure, Sohrab, David Doubilet uses strobes each time (don't ask me why but underwater flashes are called strobes) ... it's almost impossible to shoot UW without a flash.. sorry a strobe... ;) not as reknown as David Doubilet, but still the winner of this year's Wildlife photographer of the year and The shark specialist, I have actually dived with Doug Perrine in the Philippines on a spot called Malapascua with lots of sharks...impressive how you need technical stuff for UW shooting, he or the DM helping him was carrying 2 reflex each in a housing with 2 strobes attached to each housing.
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:01 AM
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**Aside, Iím going to use a dark room for the first time tomorrow as the university have one with free chemicals! Maybe Iíll try a 'lith' print once I get the hang of it...

Hey! Cheers to you Bryan!

Don't know if hey will have lith stuff, it's pretty uncommon but i would advise you first get comfortable with classic print. However if you need any advise, don't hesitate to mail me, you can't bother me with such topic ;)...
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:03 AM
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i read that edition of NG, Gabon is on my list of places to go...

hippo shot is great!

ahh French Polynesia underwater, i saw this is NG too, and that classic Davids symphony photo; a brilliant shot.

If you like underwater shots you should buy/rent The Blue Planet.

Cheers,

Bryan
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:21 AM
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hi luko
yeah i know of frans lanting. he's done some great work on gorillas too
infact hes line's(burnham) favorurite wildlife photographer
the reason why i thought it was nichols being referred to was because i think darren mentioned elephants somewhere ( ive to go through the forum again . i'm not sure what all was said :)) and this photographs came to my mind immediately. so thats why my fingers automatically typed out the michael nichols link.

ive heard of doug perrine. hasn't he done some work on whales too????

haha i have never ever dived, leave alone underwater photography. had a chance last summer, but i didnt have an underwater camera, so didn't feel like it .
those shark photographs are amazing. what surprises me though is that there are no dolphins around. generally such a fish ball ( ive forgotten the technical name of such a formation by the schools of fish)
is caused by the sonar emissions of the dolphins. after the "fish balls" or "fish spiral" are formed, then the feeding frenzy starts , then the sharks also join in. this is the only time perhaps when the sharks and dolphins work side by side.

you're really lucky to have dived with doug.
i wonder if you've ever considered going to a place called "seal island" it's off the coast of cape town, south africa. it's very famous for "breaching" by great white sharks. im in love with great whites and hope to dive with them someday, with or without the cage.

anyway we started with cropping of heads and have now landed on fish balls
hehe
take care :)
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:41 AM
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thanks Luko, i might just do that if i get stuck : )

I was impressed you dived with the guy (Doug Perrine) until, judging by his shots, i figured out he was using you for bait!
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Old 12-02-2004, 10:33 AM
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Hi Sohrab.
Thanks for all the links!
The wildlife photography by Michael Nichols was mazing, I have seen his work before, just didn't know his name.
The ones with Jane and Jou Jou were stunning.
He uses the flash in a good way, but I didn't like it in Parr's shots.
The other links to other shots by Parr was way better.
That's more in my taste.

But I can see everybodies point, he is making ugly photos quiet good by creating a "theme". Even if I still don't like them I can see that :)

Take care :)
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:01 PM
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Although I've not contributed to this thread yet, I've been following it with interest. Partly because I find portrature the hardest photographic genre to tackle.

I'd just like to endorse Luko's final paragraphic here, which seems like the only sensible way to sum-up the discussion. Personally I rather like the Martin Parr gallery that so many seem to dismiss, mainly because although he breaks all the rules, it seems he's doing it knowingly for a controlled effect, which most of the time comes off. They certainly seem to provoke a reaction.
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Old 01-02-2005, 10:19 AM
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Touristdidi has a pic on TE looks very like the second of your McCurry examples :).
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