About WRONG LOCATIONS

[Porteplume]

Bonjour everyone,

Can you please rapport here the names of places wich are not correctly located. We will try to "repare the problems" as soon as possible... Thank you!

Pouvez vous, s'il vous plaît, nous ignaler les erreurs de localisations / noms des lieux / orthographe / toponymie etc.
Nous essayerons de les corriger le plus vite possible... Merci!

[Merci aussi à Xuaxo pour sa suggestion] :)

[Docarmo]

Bonjour Viviane,
J'ai publié une image de Chicoutimi (Québec - Canada): http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/photo1208112.htm
Comme bien mentionné par Pierre (pierrefonds), le nom correct de la ville aujourd'hui est Saguenay. Il y a eu une fusion de 7 municipalités, dont Chicoutimi, par un décret en 2002. Chicoutimi n'est qu'un arrondissement de la ville de Saguenay, maintenant.
Je n'ai pas changé ma publication de localisation parce qu'il y a plusieurs photos sur le même nom - Chicoutimi. En plus, la photo a été prise quand la ville était encore Chicoutimi, une municipalité autonome.
Je ne sais pas s'il faut les regrouper tous dans Saguenay. Il y a encore beaucoup de gens qui disent Chicoutimi, c'est comme une tradition :confused:
Merci,

[Docarmo]

Bonjour Viviane,
Il y a un problème avec la localisation de Rio de Janeiro, sur la version EN PORTUGAIS. Toutes les photos de Rio sont classées à Duque de Caxias. C'est SEULEMENT sur la version en portugais. Sur les versions en anglais et toutes les autres langues, la localisation est correcte.
J'ai remarqué cela quand j'ai regardé la photo de Paulo (paura) - http://pt.trekearth.com/gallery/photo1231639.htm - et j'ai vérifié d'autres - la même chose.
Merci d'avance,

[Porteplume]

Merci de me signaler ces erreurs Maria, je vais voir si je peux y faire qqchose ce w-e, sinon il faudra attendre lundi.

Amicalement - Viviane

Later edit: * * * Done!... :) * * *

[Docarmo]

Merci, Viviane,
Ça marche!
Bon dimanche,

[jonathan_hart]

11 different names for one city:
n y
New
NeW York
New ork
New York
New York (Jamaica - Queens)
New York City
New-York
newyork
ny
NYC

[Porteplume]

New York has been done... :)

[Weetrees]

Hi guys
If you could sort out Glasgow when you have a mo, it currently is in 7 differing location all across Scotland. :confused:

John:D

[Porteplume]

Hi John,
It's done! :)

More? Please don't hesitate to note it down here...

Amicalement - Viviane

[Weetrees]

Many thanks :-)

[ktanska]

Here's a bit bigger task:
Netherlands Antilles was dissolved as a political entity at 10th October 2010.
To be politically more correct, state of Netherlands Antilles should be deleted and create corresponding islands (Curacao, Bonaire, Sint Maarten, Saba and Sint Eustatius) on the state level. I could help sorting out which locatios go where, if moderators have time to do this task.
Kari

Hi John,
It's done! :)

More? Please don't hesitate to note it down here...

Amicalement - Viviane

[Porteplume]

Thank you Kari,
I will first have to investigate and discuss your request because I'm not sure that Sint Maarten, Saba and Sint Eustatius are states on their own, I thought they still are part of The Netherlands?
In fact my husband, who is a Dutch citizen, told me that the BESislands, Bonaire, St Eustachius and Saba, are now called Carabean Netherlands.
Also Aruba and Curacao should be single countries but part of the Netherlands Kingdom?

Please help me understand how to "split" these 5 "states" into a correct division, then I'll be able to ask IB to correct the data.

Groetjes - Viviane

[ktanska]

Hi Viviane,
Longer explanation can be found in Wikipedia under article <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Netherlands_Antilles">Dissolution of the Netherlands Antilles</A>.
Shortly, Curacao and Sint Maarten are now constituent countries under Kingdom of Netherlands. And Bonaire, Saba and Sint Eustatius are special municipalities of the Netherlands. But as TE classification is not and could never be so fine grained, I suggest that all those islands would be 'States' under Netherlands -> Other. BES islands don't have common governance, so I think they should not be grouped together. And for a normal tourist it is also more clear to show each island separately.
Kari

[finlay]

Any chance of fixing a few city names within the "state" of Fife in Scotland?

There are currently 4 entries for St Andrews with different spellings
i.e. St Andrews
St. Andrews
St.Andrews
Saint Andrews

Also there is North Queensferrz which is a misspelling of North Queensferry
and Kirkaldy which is a misspelling of Kirkcaldy

Finlay

[ktanska]

Hi Viviane,
I went through locations of Netherlands Antilles to sort out how they should
divided on different islands. I sent you email as the list is longish.
Kari

[Porteplume]

Any chance of fixing a few city names within the "state" of Fife in Scotland?

There are currently 4 entries for St Andrews with different spellings
i.e. St Andrews
St. Andrews
St.Andrews
Saint Andrews

Also there is North Queensferrz which is a misspelling of North Queensferry
and Kirkaldy which is a misspelling of Kirkcaldy

Finlay

Done! Please don't hesitate to notify mistakes...

Amicalement - Viviane

[Porteplume]

Hi Viviane,
I went through locations of Netherlands Antilles to sort out how they should
divided on different islands. I sent you email as the list is longish.
Kari

Hi Kari, I sent you a mail and I've begun to make corrections.

Groetjes - Viviane

[ChrisJ]

I just got back from Wuzhen yesterday, & would like to upload some new photos. However, all of the existing Wuzhen images incorrectly list the province as Jiangsu. It is in fact in northern ZHEJIANG province. I crossed the state boundary twice going to & from Zhejiang from Suzhou in Jiangsu. Would it be possible to amend some or all 8 of these?

http://www.trekearth.com/search.php?...&type=&x=0&y=0

[siolaw]

In case there is time for this, here another place that needs some sorting!

The normal spelling of Cambodia's capital is Phnom Penh but people often get it wrong and now there is:
phenom phen
Phnom Pehn
Phnom Penh Train Station
Phnom Phen
Phnom Phenh
PhnomPenh
Phnum Pehn
Phnum Penh
Phnumpenh
Phom Penh
Phomh Penh
Phonm Penh
Phunm Penh
Pnohm Penh
pnomh penh


Actually the province (oddly spelled Phnum Penh in TE list) and the city are geographically the same thing and there should be only one city in the "Phnum Penh province" city list.
Some of the places listed in that list are in other provinces of even in other coutries (Cartagena, Colombia)

[Porteplume]

Would it be possible to amend some or all 8 of these?

Done! Thank you for the request... :)

Viviane

[Porteplume]

In case there is time for this, here another place that needs some sorting!

The normal spelling of Cambodia's capital is Phnom Penh but people often get it wrong...

Done, I just kept Phnom Penh and Phnum Penh in the list.

Actually the province (oddly spelled Phnum Penh in TE list) and the city are geographically the same thing and there should be only one city in the "Phnum Penh province" city list.

We could change that after the IB admins think it's OK, thank you.

Some of the places listed in that list are in other provinces of even in other coutries (Cartagena, Colombia)

I'll have a look later, thanks for your report...

Viviane

[CLODO]

PARIS and PARIGI (maybe Italian TE members!)
Roissy (5 different names!)
regards:)

[Porteplume]

Bonjour Claude,
Parigi has been changed for Paris
Roissy for Roissy-en-France

Merci pour ces corrections!

Viviane

[holmertz]

The Swedish capital, correctly spelled Stockholm, can be found as:
sthlm
stoccolma
Stockhlom
stockholm archipelago (would be alright with a capital S)
Stockholm city
Stockholm.
Stockhom
Stockolm
Sockholm
Sockholm strandvagen (just an address)


(Another matter is that all over TE there are LOTS of pictures that were misplaced because the contributors either had no idea where they had been or didn't bother to find out the name of the state or province)

Gert

[Porteplume]

Bonjour Gert,
I would like to help you if you help me first... :)

Can you have a look here and tell me which should be kept & which could be changed or deleted?
http://www.trekearth.com/search.php?phrase=Stockholm&type=locations

Merci... :)

[Porteplume]

Gert,
Your asked changes have been done... :)

Viviane

[holmertz]

What a mess...:eek:

Stockholm > Uppland etc or Stockholm > Sodermanland etc could be equally correct. The border between the provinces goes right through the Old town.

The archipelago could also be Uppland or Sodermanland, depending on the location. It's not a big thing whatever province is used.

Stockholm Skavsta, well Skavsta is just a distant airport for cheap flights, not really Stockholm. Should be Sodermanland, definitely not Scania

Stockholm > New Jersey is probably correct (Like Paris, Texas) :D

But Halsingland, Gotland, Scania, Angermanland, Vastergotland, Jamtland and Halland are all totally wrong, like putting Paris anywhere between Normandie and Côte d'Azur.

[holmertz]

Thanks Viviane, you were too fast for me.
Gert

[holmertz]

Actually, looking now at the destinations in the province of Sodermanland, there is still Stoccolm, Stoccolma, Stokholm and Stokolm. In Uppland province sthlm remains.
(Not to mention a number of other places wrongly spelled or geographically misplaced).

[Porteplume]

... Stoccolm, Stoccolma, Stokholm and Stokolm. In Uppland province sthlm remains...

Done! :)

(Not to mention a number of other places wrongly spelled or geographically misplaced).

If you want to give the mistakes I can correct it...

[holmertz]

Thank you Viviane, but I get exhausted just thinking of sorting through all that. Maybe a little at a time.

[Porteplume]

Thanks Gert,
Whenever you feel you can or have time or want to... :)
And then I'll be here to correct the lists.

Viviane

[siolaw]

Hi Viviane,

If you have time, and if it is relevant, I found 3 "Aruba" photos under Venezuela here http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/South_America/Venezuela/West/Falcon/Aruba/ instead of there http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Netherlands/Other/Aruba/

There is no other island called Aruba in Venezuela, those pics can be moved!

L.

[Porteplume]

Done! Thanks for you report, Laurent. :)

[jacquest]

Bonjour Viviane,
J'ai publié une image de Chicoutimi (Québec - Canada): http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/photo1208112.htm
Comme bien mentionné par Pierre (pierrefonds), le nom correct de la ville aujourd'hui est Saguenay. Il y a eu une fusion de 7 municipalités, dont Chicoutimi, par un décret en 2002. Chicoutimi n'est qu'un arrondissement de la ville de Saguenay, maintenant.
Je n'ai pas changé ma publication de localisation parce qu'il y a plusieurs photos sur le même nom - Chicoutimi. En plus, la photo a été prise quand la ville était encore Chicoutimi, une municipalité autonome.
Je ne sais pas s'il faut les regrouper tous dans Saguenay. Il y a encore beaucoup de gens qui disent Chicoutimi, c'est comme une tradition :confused:
Merci,

Çà a été la même chose pour Québec et Montréal. J'identifie mes photos avec le nom de la ville de Québec mais je mets entre parenthèse le nom de l'ancienne ville. Ex: Quebec (Ste-Foy). Je crois que c'est le meilleur moyen.

[maloutim]

Bonjour Viviane,
Alors que je suis en train de poster les photos de mon récent voyage en Inde, je me rends compte d'u nombre important d'erreurs :
--KARNATAKA :
Il y a des photos placées à Bangalor, Bangalore, Bangaluru, Banglaore et Banglore.
Hampi Mazar, au lieu de Hampi Bazar, Hampi-Hospet alors que les photos sont à Hampi tout simplement, et 2 photos placées à Hospet, sont à fait de Hampi :http://beta.trekearth.com/gallery/Asia/India/South/Karnataka/Hospet/photo1013170.htm et http://beta.trekearth.com/gallery/Asia/India/South/Karnataka/Hospet/photo205998.htm
--KERALA :
Il y a des photos placées à Cochin, Fort Cochin, Fort Kochi, Fort Kochin, Ft Cochin, Kochi, Kochi (Cochin), Kochin.
Il y a aussi : Kollam Paravoor et Paravoor . Kolam et Kollam.
Et encore : Alaphuzha, Alappuzah, Alappuzha, Alappuzha-Allepey, Aleppey, Allapy, Allepey, Alleppey, Alleppy et Allepy. Je crois que les vrais noms sont: Alleppey = Alappuzha.
Serait-il possible de repréciser le lien vers le Quid des noms propres dans votre premier message de ce forum. Cela pourrait aider les membres.
Peut-être serait-ce utile également de le préciser dans les TOS.
Merci d'avance.
Cordialement.
Marie-Louise.

[Porteplume]

Bonjour Marie-Louise,
C'est bien dommage mais Quid.fr a disparu depuis qq temps déjà et lorsque je veux être certaine d'une orthographe je cherche sur Wikipedia ou http://www.virtualtourist.com/ qui a une bonne banque de données...

Amicalement - Viviane

[maloutim]

Merci de votre réponse Viviane. En effet, wikipedia est un bon site de référence.
Aurez-vous le temps de corriger les appellations que j'ai citées ci-dessus ? Dans la mesure de votre disponibilité bien sûr.
Amicalement.
Marie-Louise.

[Porteplume]

Bonjour Viviane,
Alors que je suis en train de poster les photos de mon récent voyage en Inde, je me rends compte d'u nombre important d'erreurs :
--KARNATAKA :
Il y a des photos placées à Bangalor, Bangalore, Bangaluru, Banglaore et Banglore.
Hampi Mazar, au lieu de Hampi Bazar, Hampi-Hospet alors que les photos sont à Hampi tout simplement, et 2 photos placées à Hospet, sont à fait de Hampi :http://beta.trekearth.com/gallery/Asia/India/South/Karnataka/Hospet/photo1013170.htm et http://beta.trekearth.com/gallery/Asia/India/South/Karnataka/Hospet/photo205998.htm
--KERALA :
Il y a des photos placées à Cochin, Fort Cochin, Fort Kochi, Fort Kochin, Ft Cochin, Kochi, Kochi (Cochin), Kochin.
Il y a aussi : Kollam Paravoor et Paravoor . Kolam et Kollam.
Et encore : Alaphuzha, Alappuzah, Alappuzha, Alappuzha-Allepey, Aleppey, Allapy, Allepey, Alleppey, Alleppy et Allepy. Je crois que les vrais noms sont: Alleppey = Alappuzha.


Hi Marie-Louise,
Je peux rassembler certains noms qui ont différentes orthographes et me fier au nom qui est le plus souvent utilisé mais il me faut être sûre et c'est pourquoi je ne peux accepter que les changements signalés par une source sûre / lien Internet / liste officielle etc.

J'ai donc changé qq noms en les "rassemblant"...

Viviane

[maloutim]

Merci de votre réponse Viviane,

--KARNATAKA :

Il y a des photos placées à Bangalor, Bangalore, Bangaluru, Banglaore et Banglore.http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore
Toutes ces appellations doivent être regroupées sous le nom de BANGALORE ou de BENGALURU, nom que la ville a choisi depuis 2006. Difficile de faire un choix entre les deux ?

Hampi Mazar, Hampi-Hospet alors que les photos sont à Hampi tout simplement, et 2 photos placées à Hospet, sont en fait de Hampi :http://beta.trekearth.com/gallery/As...oto1013170.htm et http://beta.trekearth.com/gallery/As...hoto205998.htm . Toutes ces photos doivent être regroupées sous l'appellation de HAMPI, ainsi que la photo placée dans la ville inexistante de Humpi. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampi

--KERALA :

Il y a des photos placées à Cochin, Fort Kochi, Kochi et Port Kochi. Toutes ces appellations doivent être regroupées sous le nom de KOCHI. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochin_%28Inde%29

Il y a aussi : Kollam Paravoor et Paravoor Ces deux appellations doivent être regroupées sous celle de PARAVUR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paravur.
Kolam et Quilon doivent être regroupés sous l'appellation de KOLLAM. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quilon

Alappuzha et Allleppey sont un seul et même endroit.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alappuzha. ça devrait donc être regroupé sous l'appellation Alappuzha-Alleppey, car les deux noms sont utilisés autant l'un que l'autre..

Merci d'avance.
Cordialement.
Marie-Louise.

[dkmurphys]

Enisala is a village and fortress in Tulcea (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Romania/East/Tulcea/Enisala/), not in Constanta (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Romania/East/Constanta/Enisala/)
:)

[Porteplume]

Enisala is a village and fortress in Tulcea (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Romania/East/Tulcea/Enisala/), not in Constanta (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Romania/East/Constanta/Enisala/)
:)

Thank you, it has been corrected! :)

[dkmurphys]

Thanx a lot!

[dkmurphys]

Hi Viviane,
I'm back with another thing to be repaired. We have the city of Cluj-Napoca (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Romania/West/Cluj/Cluj-Napoca/) wich is correct written, and we have some others versions of wrong written name: Cluj - Napoca (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Romania/West/Cluj/Cluj_-_Napoca/), cluj apoca (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Romania/West/Cluj/cluj_apoca/), cluj napoca (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Romania/West/Cluj/cluj_napoca/).

Thanx:)

[holmertz]

Here's another chaotic city:

The capital of Ukraine is represented at TE as:
kiev
Kiew
Kieyv
Kiiv
Kijev
Kijiv
Kijow
Kiyiv
Kyev
Kyiv
Kyjiv
Kyyiv
Kyyv
Kyyivska

The city was generally known as Kiev, which is the Russian spelling, during the time of the Soviet Union. Since independence Kyiv, which is Ukrainian, has been the most relevant spelling. So I suggest that Kyiv should be used throughout.

Gert

[Porteplume]

I have changed some of the following ones:

kiev (389)
Kiew (1)
Kieyv (1)
Kiiv (2)
Kijiv (6)
Kijow (1)
Kiyiv (1)
Kiyv (14)
Knyazhichi (1)
Kyev (4)
Kyiv (199)
Kyjiv (2)
Kyyiv (63)
Kyyivska (1)
Kyyv (2)

into:

Kiev (394) [M] << Kyyivska
Kyiv (233) [M] << Kyyivska
Kyyiv (63) [M] << Kyyivska

But I'm still hesitating which one would be the right spelling ???

I'm not sure I can change Kiev for Kyiv as it was once the right name...

[holmertz]

Thanks Viviane,
Kiev or Kyiv is a tricky question that probably cuts through the domestic politics too, i.e. whether you're pro-Moscow or pro-West.
This is at least a lot better.
Gert

[saxo042]

You have asked for rapport of the names of places which are not correctly located. So far I have found more than 300 wrong locations in Sweden! I can give you a list in pdf-format, if you want to "repare the problems”.

However, the first problem is that you have chosen to subdivide Sweden into what you call ”regions” and ”states”. There are many users who don´t seem to understand what these are.

First of all, ”regions” are normally called ”lands” and there are three of them (there were four until 1809).

Then there are in fact two separate ways to subdivide these lands.
One way is to use ”landskap” (”landscape” but mostly translated to ”province” in English) and the other is to use ”län” (mostly translated to ”county” in English). ”States” are never used!

Landskap / provinces are a very old, but has no administrative function. They have been replaced by counties (län) for the administrative purpose (starting 1634). But people often identify themselves with landskap /province. Dialects are typical examples, where we use landskap /province to identify the speaker.

Many of the wrong locations are in the Gothenburg area. Gothenburg is definitely in the Västergötland province and has been so since it was founded in 1621. North of Gothenburg is Bohuslän, which belonged to Norway until 1658. Bohuslän is clearly a province, even if the name contains the part ”län”. South of Gothenburg is Halland, which belonged to Denmark until 1645. Both are today separate provinces in Sweden.

But when the adminstrative parts, the counties, were formed, Gothenburg was merged with Bohuslän in 1680 to form the administrative unit called Göteborgs och Bohus län (Gothenburg and Bohus county). But that didn´t make Gothenburg a part of Bohuslän! Note the difference between Bohus län and Bohuslän!

Then, in 1998, this county was once again merged with two other counties, Älvsborg´s county and Skaraborg´s county into Västra Götaland´s county.

Älvsborg´s county included the southern part of the province of Västergötland and the province of Dalsland. Skaraborg´s county corresponded to the northern part of the province of Västergötland. (Another peculiarity is that Västergötland belongs to Götaland and Dalsland belongs to Svealand…)
Of course, both Västergötland and Västra Götaland mean the same thing; West Gothland!

But here the TE problems start! Too many people belive that Gothenburg is in the province of Bohuslän, probably since it was once part of Bohus län! Same thing with Mölndal, close to Gothenburg. The majority of the wrong locations in Sweden are found for Mölndal!

Another area with plenty of wrong locations is Lappland. Lappland is a province, now divided in two different counties. These are Norrbotten and Västerbotten. But these counties are also the names of separate provinces. All locations in the province of Lappland are either in the county of Norrbotten or in the county of Västerbotten. But if TE only has provinces in the preprinted default list, it is easy to see why so many users misplace the locations.

<b>I suggest that TE changes the words ”Region” into ”Land” and ”State” into ”Province”</b>

Once reason to use TrekEarth is to find pictures from different places on the earth, for instance if you want to visit them. It is therefore quite essential to achieve the correct information!

Please contact me by email if you like to have the list. I will then attach it to a direct email to you.

[Porteplume]

Merci Gunnar, I'll send you a mail... :)

[holmertz]

Dear Viviane (or any other moderator),

After I uploaded a photo from Istanbul I noticed that this is another city that has been spelled in a huge variety of ways. It would be nice to see the city "normalized".

I have seen it written as:
Iistanbul
Instabul
Instanbul
Intanbul
Isatnbul
Isatnbul Airport
Isstanbul
Ist
Ista
Istabul
Istambul
Istanbaul
Istanboul
Istanbu
Istanbul.
Istanbule
IstanbulPark
Istanlbul
Istasnbul
Istnbul
Itanbul

There was also a picture from Denmark, marked kopenhagen, which had been sorted into Istanbul province.

The very correct Turkish spelling would be İstanbul, but we can forget about that.

Whenever you find the time...

Thanks,
Gert

[Porteplume]

Bonsoir Gert,

I think I got all those you have found... Please don't hesitate to send more if necessary.

:)

[holmertz]

Thank you, that was quick. I am sure I will find something. :rolleyes:
Gert

[Porteplume]

You have asked for rapport of the names of places which are not correctly located. So far I have found more than 300 wrong locations in Sweden! I can give you a list in pdf-format, if you want to "repare the problems”

. . . . .

Once reason to use TrekEarth is to find pictures from different places on the earth, for instance if you want to visit them. It is therefore quite essential to achieve the correct information!

Please contact me by email if you like to have the list. I will then attach it to a direct email to you.

Got the list of 319 faults and I think they all corrected now.
I must say that you did a great work to make it easier to me, which I very much appreciate.

Thank you a lot! :)

[saxo042]

I have seen that all the wrong locations are now corrected, thanks a lot!
Gunnar

[saxo042]

I noticed one small error left, in the "state" of Bohuslän, it should be "Tjorn" not "Tjorne". But otherwise everything seems OK.
Gunnar

[Porteplume]

Tjorn done to... :)