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Nodding_view
04-23-2003, 11:05 PM
This is the question i wondered.
Why on a site called Trekearth - which the name is very explicit ! -, there's some photos totally out of this topic..
I wouldn't quote some photos, but I think you've seen it many times..
Do you think i'm Right to tell you that?
Do you think Adam would create a new folder for these kinds of photos?
I think Treakearth wasn't created for this sort of picture at start..

What do you think about it?
Thank you.

ronners
04-23-2003, 11:21 PM
I totally agree. The problem is that a 'policy' is very hard to police. The 'TOS Violation' option is about the best that can be done, but this is subjective. An alternative folder might work, and a visitor could then choose to ignore the 'miscellanea', and the site may in fact return to it's original objective. We can only hope.

'Photo of my mate in the pub' doesn't seem - to me - to fit the remit of this site.

Ron.

CedarBough
04-24-2003, 03:06 AM
Okay, at the risk of getting blasted:
1. posed shots of friends are not TE material. When i first joined, i uploaded three posed shots of two friends, but deleted them after a couple of weeks and more thought about what TE was about.
2. snapshots of friends are obviously also not TE material.
3. shots WITHOUT A CONTEXT of common animals and flowers are not TE material. That means a landscape of tulips seems to be representative of the Netherlands, but a close-up of a single tulip seems like a common flower. A close-up of a sheep-dog is pretty boring, but a sheep-dog working some sheep would be very interesting to see.
4. (almost) Needless to say nudes and PhotoShop creations are not TE material.

However, as Adam has wisely pointed out, we don't need to travel to take shots that will teach others about the world through our photography. So a cityscape looking out your own bedroom window requires no travel at all, but ESPECIALLY if you added a nice description of what we were seeing, it could teach me about your place in the world.

adam
04-24-2003, 06:49 AM
I generally agree with Ronners/CedarBough.

TrekEarth is not dedicated to travel photography exclusively, although travel photos fit perfectly into the TE mission of "learning about the world through photography" and its location based structure. There are other types of photos which also fit nicely with the TE theme such as documentary photography.

There's a bit of a gray area as to what is appropriate. If it contributes to 'learning about the world through photography', it's generally OK.

Note that if a new member initially posts multiple friend/pet snapshots, the photos will be removed and the TE concept will be explained to the member via email. If a longtime contributing member decides to post one every now and then, I will let it pass.

Nodding_view
04-24-2003, 02:24 PM
Cedar> You can take a single flower with a macro, but if there's some context with. I mean that if we can't see in the background somthing representative but a white wall.. Or if a text or comment is added to the picture.
Taking photos in you city or country to my mind is perfect.. nobody knows as well as you your own city. And you're always a traveller even in your city or country..
But taking a mate or a member family like a familial photo with no artistic of informative view is for me an inadequate thing to post it here.

I see that we're are on the same wavelenght.. Happy to see that.

See you.

AdrianW
04-24-2003, 10:27 PM
You have the option to scroll on by, so why not do so? To me <i>the</i> most significant part of spring in the UK is seeing the bluebells in flower - and I find flowers in general evoke spring for me. Just because <i>you</i> don't find a category appealing doesn't mean it doesn't have merit <u>to other people</u> ;-)

Nina
04-25-2003, 01:30 AM
I must say I am a little disappointed to see that some very rigid guidelines as to what is and what is not appropriate for this forum are sugested for implementation by some of the members. My message to them: Lighten up! Enjoy photography! After all that is what we're here for.

Nodding_view
04-25-2003, 01:59 PM
To all :

Well, my point of view could not be shared with orther people, but to my mind, i don't see the point to post some photos which have absolutly no link with trek and travels in general.
But you do what you want, it's your business, not mine, and even if i don't see the point of these different photos, i'll keep on visiting this site.
bye.

ornis
04-25-2003, 04:39 PM
"Learning about the world through photography" is a very attractive and precise objective. Wether you travel or not, posting pictures with a local history or typically representative of a city/region/country, is great as long as it's not just a snapshot, but an original "study" of the subject. But it also has it's limitations. As, I suppose, many of you, I deleted some of my early shots not complying with this and that's allright. I would suggest that everybody does the same with a critical eye, giving also an opportunity to upgrade their own album.
Now, beyond this main objective, there is another category, that I would call "beautiful and/or original pictures", but not complying with TE original purpose. Many shots are NOT exclusively related to a precise geographic atmosphere, like : some people, some single flowers, some animals, some sunsets/sundawns/storms, some trees, some waters, some snow, some objects, etc... but some have superb photographic quality and can be a source of inspiration for the community. I think it is hard for Adam to have to select amongst them and delete (except obvious offence, of course). The members should simply judge by themselves and sanction by not quoting, if poor quality or not complying with TE objectives, according to their opinion. Why not put a simple rule: pictures not having been commented positively by at least 3 members within, let's say, 6 months, would be automatically withdrawn. This would have many advantages: - enable a better rotation... - upgrade the level in general... - As Nina writes "Lighten up! Enjoy photography!"... recenter TE objective taking in account members wishes. This was just my contribution to this discussion. Wathever, TE is really a very enjoyable community with lot's of good inspiration, thanks to Adam's hard work.

CedarBough
04-28-2003, 01:05 AM
There are many other photosites on the web, some of which I've participated in, that DO NOT limit the shots submitted in any way at all. Even graphically pornographic, completely digitally altered etc. can get on. I think that if someone wants a site where they can upload ANYTHING at all, they should go to one of those sites. Trek Earth has a specific aim, and if each person says "but i want to share this more than I care about the aim of TE" then soon our site looks just like the others. Please, let's keep TE special!

if anyone needs a different site:
http://www.photonet.com
http://www.photosig.com

sita4ram
04-28-2003, 01:56 AM
well I think this discussion has gone way beyond its purpose :)
Im sure that ppl that post a 'non relative' shot every now and then should not receive threats on the mail... :) I mean its cool to have a more designated photos, but a nice friendly atmosphere is also important.
I say lets stop that discussion(s) and let ppl post cheerfully. if it will be completely out of place, someone will remark on that for sure.

consider the fact that love is blind, and sometimes ppl think their beloved shot will totally amaze others while the truth it somewhat different.
(happened to me several times - then I gave up and removed those stunning uncommented shots. will replace them when you'll be ready for them ;) )

adam
04-28-2003, 09:40 AM
"Why not put a simple rule: pictures not having been commented positively by at least 3 members within, let's say, 6 months, would be automatically withdrawn."

There are many great photos on TE that for one reason or another have not been critiqued much. For example, see this great <a href="/gallery/photo680.htm">Bayleaf shot</a>. It only has 2 critiques.

Motrem
07-16-2003, 01:58 PM
TE est un site de haute qualité soutenu par les photographes d'expérience. Nous permettre de partager la passion de la photographie avec vous est tout à votre honneur. Moi, débutante, je tente de bien faire et j'apprends de mes erreurs et de vos critiques. Longue vie à TE.
Une question : mon inscritpion est récente. Je viens de lire certaines interrogations de membres sur l'orientation de TE. Je n'ai pas les moyens de parcourir le monde mais je puis visiter ma ville, ma province et même mon pays qui est si grand! Partager avec vous mes découvertes, est-ce dans l'esprit de TE? Puis-je aussi vous faire partager certains essais de nature ou autres?
Motrem

Porteplume
07-16-2003, 02:18 PM
Bonjour Monique,

Tout à fait d'accord avec vous!
Tout comme vous je ne suis pas une "grande voyageuse", mais je suis sûre que beaucoup n'ont jamais vu mon Dauphiné natal, les champs de fleurs de mon île en Hollande, ou les hauts plateaux de Norvège. Tout comme j'apprécie de découvrir votre pays, le Canada, à travers vos images. Continuez...

I totally agree!
Juste like you, I'm not a "great traveller", but I'm sure a lot of people have never seen the Dauphiné in France where I was born, or the flowers fields of my island in Holland, or the "high fjells" of Norway. Just like I've never seen Canada and I really enjoy discovering your neighbourhood through your images. Keep sending them...

<font color=green><i>"Travel is not compulsory. Great minds have been fostered entirely by staying close to home. Moses never got further than the Promised Land. Da Vinci and Beethoven never left Europe. Shakespeare hardly went anywhere at all—certainly not to Elsinore or the coast of Bohemia." By James Morris
</i>

Keitht
07-16-2003, 11:47 PM
How do you define a travel related photo? For example a close up of a plant or animal that can only be found in a limited area may be travel related to somebody who knows that fact but not to others. Architectural detail ?...
One man's travel photo is another man's unrelated shot. If we go the route of undeniably travel related we are likely to restrict posts to landscapes or transport. Is that really what is wanted?
Not by me it isn't.

mdchachi
07-17-2003, 12:42 AM
In the About section you'll see that the theme of TE is <i>learning more about the world through photography.</i>

There is nothing in the terms about "travel". In general, I think most people take the guidelines to mean that the photo should say <i>something</i> about the place in which it was taken.

Some people think differently but I think close-up shots of plants, animals and architectural details fit this definition. However shots you see on other photo sites like macro shots of water droplets, studio nudes, fanciful double-exposures or digital creations, etc. clearly do not belong.